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Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by catchnear4321 »

mathisfun123 wrote: post #320
catchnear4321 wrote: post #317

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No human in the car?

This is only a product for anti-social nerds. Most people will not pay a premium for this (this isn't waymo's product). Edit: lots of people commenting on here how they're normie and they would still prefer waymo. Read what I wrote again - I didn't say normies wouldn't prefer, I said normies wouldn't pay a premium. So unless waymo is planning on being a luxury car service (which it's not) that can't possibly be their…

yes yes you are the product.

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Post by hadlock »

LightBug1 wrote: post #316
jdm2212 wrote: post #289

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Waymo charges more than Uber to supply constraints, not bad unit economics. People (like me) are willing to pay extra for the product Waymo offers, and Waymo is itself supply constrained and has no direct competitors offering driverless rides, so they get to do a bit of monopoly pricing.

What's the product vs an Uber? Genuine question.

I don't have to listen to the driver argue with his girlfriend across the entire span of the bay bridge, I don't have to worry the uber reeks of week (or worse, cigarette) smell on the way to an interview etc etc. Given the choice I will choose driverless every time.

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Post by jakintosh »

ssl-3 wrote: post #269
oblio wrote: post #236

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America, the place where they will try anything except for building good public transportation, walkable and bikeable neighborhoods.

It's important to understand the history, wherein: There was a time when we had all of those things that you mention. But cars quite clearly won; the others lost. Towns and cities then continued to grow. They did this in car-centric ways because that fit the transportation style of the time. And now, it is stuck this way.

> And now, it is stuck this way.

Unless this is sarcasm, isn't it kind of strange to decide that history just happened to end in this moment?

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Post by jdale27 »

m_a_g wrote: post #313
eagleinparadise wrote: post #232

As someone who works in commercial real estate, involved in about $300M of housing development, some of it affordable, i will say without any doubt that driverless cars are a very effective affordable housing policy that is not being considered or discussed by anyone. Any public dollar that gets contributed to housing, basically adds a 50% cost factor and assume whatever it is used for will take 2-3x as long to deliv…

God, I love how Americans will do anything but build public transport

Waymo is already working, on roads today, for less time and money than it took to build zero miles of high speed rail in California.

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Post by xnx »

m_a_g wrote: post #313
eagleinparadise wrote: post #232

As someone who works in commercial real estate, involved in about $300M of housing development, some of it affordable, i will say without any doubt that driverless cars are a very effective affordable housing policy that is not being considered or discussed by anyone. Any public dollar that gets contributed to housing, basically adds a 50% cost factor and assume whatever it is used for will take 2-3x as long to deliv…

God, I love how Americans will do anything but build public transport

Just because it's not a train doesn't mean a self-driving car system isn't public transport. Free your mind.

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Post by scoofy »

cflewis wrote: post #329
LightBug1 wrote: post #316

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What's the product vs an Uber? Genuine question.

Drives better, isn't distracted, doesn't get lost, care are always clean, will always take you where you want to go day or night, and yeah, no human.

Yea, it not that most uber/lyft drivers are bad (most are good), it’s just that all Waymos provide a good experience.

It’s the same reason many people will prefer a chain restaurant to an unknown mom & pop. By knowing what you’re getting, you’re willing to give up the potential for something nominally better to avoid something much worse.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by echelon »

inigyou wrote: post #202
echelon wrote: post #174

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> Edgewood Georgia, I love when HN mentions my state or city, but that's the road and neighborhood one block down from me. I feel seen. To add something more substantive to this thread, apparently Google's deal with Uber for distribution has become incredibly adversarial in our state. Uber won't explicitly let you book a Waymo or let you know if you're in the Waymo range.

Thank you so much for revealing your location. This data point has been added to your shadow profile. Kind regards, Palantir.

I've been on this site for 15 years. The damage is already done.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by cyberax »

ajmurmann wrote: post #281
cyberax wrote: post #252

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Self-driving cars will kill off your kind of real estate developers once and for all. Because there is no such thing as "affordable housing". All housing on the market is by definition "affordable". If someone buys it, then somebody can afford it. The proper term is _subsidized_ housing. Anything subsidized is destructive in the long run. Fortunately, self-driving cars and mild carpooling (3-4 people per car) will el…

How do self-driving cars reduce congestion? Don't they increase it because of empty riders between customers? I'm with you though on getting up parking space in high land value areas

Right now the average car occupancy during the rush hour is ~1.5 persons per car. By increasing that to 3-4 people, you can easily double the effective road capacity. This will completely resolve the congestion in the majority of metro areas, even with induced traffic.

No car platooning, flock routing, car trains, or anything similarly exotic is needed. Just mild carpooling. People are not doing that now because it's a logistics nightmare that removes most advantages of owning a car.

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Post by pibaker »

DiscourseFan wrote: post #340
m_a_g wrote: post #313

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God, I love how Americans will do anything but build public transport

A network of fully autonomous electric self-driving cars on a developed roadway can only be superseded in efficiency by high speed rail. There is no way that traditional forms of public transit could outclass it. This is Waymo's big moneymaker: public contracts. The bus drivers and taxi drivers unions will fight it, but smaller towns looking to build denser housing and make their public spaces more walkable will happ…

> A network of fully autonomous electric self-driving cars on a developed roadway can only be superseded in efficiency by high speed rail

[citation needed]

Not an expert but it seems trivial to me that a road full of cars each carrying one or two passengers will take up a lot more space than trains or buses carrying the same number of people.

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Post by dymk »

phoghed wrote: post #185
dymk wrote: post #68

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Credit cards are not free money lmao

They mean the rewards. You can get some % cash back with no annual fee. Effectively my credit card costs me nothing, comes from the same bank as my checking and savings, and gives me cash back.

I know what they mean, the “rewards” are not free
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