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>AI will be the one to cause the next financial crisis. So what's the implication here? It sounds like you want AI canceled or curtailed, and if you apply the same logic to the internet in the mid 90s, you would have correctly called out the dotcom bubble. Does that we mean we should have also canceled the internet?
> Does that we mean we should have also canceled the internet? In retrospect, I think the world would be a much better place if we'd just turned it off in 1998.
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Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol
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Do you plan to bet on this by buying PUTs? Should be easy money, right? /s
Tesla is imo overvalued and has been for a long time. Its bankrupted a lot of pretty savvy investors in the last 10 years trying to short them because its obviously over valued. Market irrationality vs solvency and all of that.
That said, OpenAI isn't public, so you can't directly short it easily. I guess you could short Microsoft but I don't know if that gives you enough exposure to truly be worth it, even if you do genuinely believe what OOP claims.
Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol
#43The main fuel is the internet , followed by mobile phones and social media. AI definitely makes the scams more believable, a Nigerian Prince can now easily forge documents. But at the same time AI is a double edged sword, it can be used for both offence and defense.
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#44Here's the report this story is about: https://www.interpol.int/Media/Documents/Publications/Cyberc... (PDF) Page 24 is where the AI stuff starts being described in detail.
Our most vulnerable must be getting absolutely hammered by scams. Is anyone working on protecting e.g. elderly people from social engineering? I feel like banks should be proactively suggesting people have a second family member or fiduciary sign off on risky transactions like wiring money to new accounts or pulling out a ton of cash.
I was recently on the phone with a very articulate member of my banks fraud department, or at least I believed they were up until they asked for my two factor code to reset my account. They had visibility into some past legitimate wire transfers which they asked me about along with a fictitious fraudulent one that they “blocked“, and when I pushed back against giving them my two factor code, they had a whole script prepared about needing to freeze my account until I went to a branch with four forms of identification (or just give us the two factor code and avoid the hassle). An acquaintance wired their down payment to a scammer after the real estate firms email system was compromised and scammer inserted their own wire instructions.
Not to mention reports of mythos directly hacking into banking systems. Scary times.
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#45As if people weren't scamming before AI, with the billions of dollars seized from the Chinese scam dungeons in Cambodia [0] where they had kidnapped people and tied them to computers (including a few deaths, and another wave of arrests just recently)
Scammers gonna scam. At least if they can use AI for it then maybe they'll kidnap fewer people
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The main fuel is the "need" to have browsers that can execute code, coupled with the ability to transfer money via the internet. JavaScript was a mistake, e-commerce was a mistake, and so is everything else that came after. Let's ask Vint Cerf whether the web was meant to run logic, or just be a document format. I bet no matter what he answers, the world would be like the GIF pronunciation "I don't care if the origin…
> JavaScript was a mistake, e-commerce was a mistake, and so is everything else that came after. That’s a really extreme take that lacks any nuance. Might as well blame the OS as well for allowing any custom code to be executed.
> This planet has, or had, a problem, which was this. Most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small, green pieces of paper, which is odd, because on the whole, it wasn't the small, green pieces of paper which were unhappy. And so the problem remained, and lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake coming down from the trees in the first place, and some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no-one should ever have left the oceans.
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#47Why not use AI to detect and avoid scams? As if people weren't scamming before AI, with the billions of dollars seized from the Chinese scam dungeons in Cambodia [0] where they had kidnapped people and tied them to computers (including a few deaths, and another wave of arrests just recently) Scammers gonna scam. At least if they can use AI for it then maybe they'll kidnap fewer people [0] https://news.ycombinator.com…
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#48The main fuel is the internet , followed by mobile phones and social media. AI definitely makes the scams more believable, a Nigerian Prince can now easily forge documents. But at the same time AI is a double edged sword, it can be used for both offence and defense.
It's been used for defense for a long time. AI is why spam filters started actually working in the 2000s.
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#49Criminals are bad, evil, jail etc etc. I agree. But while the core problem that creates this environment is not solved, nothing will fix it. Not even if you bomb the hell out of it. Ethics, morals and whatever people call only exists if economy is stable. If you let this sort of opportunistic environment exist there will be people to work in it
> Ethics, morals and whatever people call only exists if economy is stable. What is a "stable" economy? The US has the world's largest GDP, the highest nominal GDP per capita of any nation with a population over 10 million, the highest amount of investable and liquid private assets of any country in the world, more than a third of the world's millionaires, etc. And yet I think you'd have a hard time convincing most p…
It is true that we see correlation between richer countries and lower level of crimes - across all layers of society.
Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol
#50Why not use AI to detect and avoid scams? As if people weren't scamming before AI, with the billions of dollars seized from the Chinese scam dungeons in Cambodia [0] where they had kidnapped people and tied them to computers (including a few deaths, and another wave of arrests just recently) Scammers gonna scam. At least if they can use AI for it then maybe they'll kidnap fewer people [0] https://news.ycombinator.com…
That goes beside the point. Scammers probably boosted more their scams with AI than developers boosted their deliveries.
Chinese models are going to keep getting stronger. Maybe the Free World™ should increase their people's access to and education about AI too.