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Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Post by kbelder »

ciupicri wrote: post #328
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #243

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From a moral PoV pirating old movies isn't a big issue, especially in cases where the original makers are already dead. At that point you're only feeding Hollywood bosses, shareholders and decendants. Same as torrenting music from dead artists. I don't care for Jimi Hendrix' greedy sister or 'Authentic Brands Group', which owns the rights to Elvis Presley's music. These people can create their own art instead of livi…

What if Jimi Hendrix wanted for his sister to benefit from his work?

What if he wanted his great-grandkids to benefit from his work?

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Post by pseudosavant »

fluoridation wrote: post #599
pseudosavant wrote: post #527

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For games that require online services, this will always be an inherent issue. But for games that don't, I'm betting on emulation continuing to save the day. When the PS3 was released with its complex/novel architecture, it seemed like an emulator was highly unlikely, but look at how good RPCS3 is now. On the Microsoft side, they've been incredibly good about first-party backwards compatibility. I bought most of my X…

>look at how good RPCS3 is now My understanding is that it's nowhere near the state of, say, PSX emulators around the turn of the century. There's still swaths of late 2000s and 2010s releases that are unplayable without the original hardware.

RPCS3 has come a long way in the last few of years, both in performance and compatibility. Even Metal Gear Solid 4 is supposed to be playable (albeit using game patches) now. And emulating the PS3 architecture, with those weird Cell SPUs, has to be one of the most difficult emulations to implement.

I'm continually impressed by the emulation scene's passion for maintaining access to older games. LLMs/agents will be a force multiplier for that kind of skill and passion.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Post by cheschire »

everdrive wrote: post #390
altmanaltman wrote: post #202

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With the planned death of physical media for games, it will soon become impossible to do so. Like, Sony literally plans to stop making discs starting in 2028, and all games you buy will have to be digital only. GTA 6 is just giving a code in a box. It's really the end of times for physical media in a few years, maybe something can change if consumers push back but they likely will not if we are being realistic. https…

How many games do you need in your life, though? I'd say the top 500 games on the GoG catalog would be more than a lifetime of gaming. That's not even including open source or rom sets.

Factorio. And… yep.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Post by HDBaseT »

f055 wrote: post #323
jonhohle wrote: post #163

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> An extended Xbox outage that began Sunday evening hasn’t just caused issues for people trying to play digital games — it blocked people from playing their disc-based games, too. First line in the article. An Xbox owner who did the right thing by buying physical copies is still unable to play their games. I don’t play on Xbox, but my kids do, and Overwatch worked fine yesterday (which is a Microsoft property). So I’…

I would hope an old Xbox One disconnected from LAN and WiFi, with a GTA VI DVD inside, could start the game just fine.

You wouldn't be able to.

GTA VI is not being released on the Xbox One. Game discs aren't DVDs and haven't been for well over a decade, they use Bluray discs, which won't even matter since GTA VI isn't shipping with a physical disc, only a code.

You need internet to access this product. You need updated system firmware.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Post by fluoridation »

pseudosavant wrote: post #622
fluoridation wrote: post #599

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>look at how good RPCS3 is now My understanding is that it's nowhere near the state of, say, PSX emulators around the turn of the century. There's still swaths of late 2000s and 2010s releases that are unplayable without the original hardware.

RPCS3 has come a long way in the last few of years, both in performance and compatibility. Even Metal Gear Solid 4 is supposed to be playable (albeit using game patches) now. And emulating the PS3 architecture, with those weird Cell SPUs, has to be one of the most difficult emulations to implement. I'm continually impressed by the emulation scene's passion for maintaining access to older games. LLMs/agents will be a…

Yeah, but I wouldn't put it forward as an example of a great success of game preservation. It may reach that point some day, but it's not there yet.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Post by pseudosavant »

pseudosavant wrote: post #622
fluoridation wrote: post #599

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>look at how good RPCS3 is now My understanding is that it's nowhere near the state of, say, PSX emulators around the turn of the century. There's still swaths of late 2000s and 2010s releases that are unplayable without the original hardware.

RPCS3 has come a long way in the last few of years, both in performance and compatibility. Even Metal Gear Solid 4 is supposed to be playable (albeit using game patches) now. And emulating the PS3 architecture, with those weird Cell SPUs, has to be one of the most difficult emulations to implement. I'm continually impressed by the emulation scene's passion for maintaining access to older games. LLMs/agents will be a…

I guess I view 75% compatibility of the most oddball console architecture ever to be fairly successful. And it is still meaningfully gaining. It was 70% at the start of the year.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Post by HDBaseT »

david_allison wrote: post #369
sd9 wrote: post #195

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I wanted to play an old call of duty game to reminisce about my childhood. I tried Modern Warfare II and Black Ops, but it’s impossible. You get into a game fine, but every single game is just full of cheaters - not just cheaters with fairly benign (yet unfair) things like wall hacks, cheaters that literally change the physics of the server for all users in a completely unworkable way. I’m not sure whether this is be…

Worse: there's unpatched RCEs for Modern Warfare II: https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2018-10718

Valve needs to grow a bit of a spine here.

The Call of Duty series is one of the worst offenders, effectively every game outside of the last 2 years has so many bad CVEs' and remote code exploits that even opening them on your PC is unsafe. Playing the official matchmaking on even something as recent as Black Ops 3 will have your computer compromised in minutes.

Yet they are still on the store front, they never go on sale. Black Ops 2 has been out for well over a decade and still wants full price for it on Steam & its unsafe.

Playing Call of Duty games on PC is probably the most unsafe thing you can do with your computer, outside of downloading malware itself.

Valve should delist these games from the store if they are effectively unplayable. They should ban Activision from selling new games on the store if they cannot make older titles even remotely safe. It's pure neglect, most of this stuff is fixed by the community with a few lines of code.

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Post by HDBaseT »

inigyou wrote: post #564
righthand wrote: post #539

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No my point here is that you have to download and install Steam before you can download and install any games. Now if I’m non-technical why would I want to make the extra effort to go Drm free if I have to use Steam anyways? I know technical people can do it, but I do not believe this is a path for the non-technical user. The proposed steps are: - buy game on steam marketplace (no client) - download and install games…

No you don't, you just have to plug in this USB drive and copy the files to your hard drive.

You literally just copy the cracked steamapi.dll into your game files. It's near universal and simple.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Post by frollogaston »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #471

I think Valve is just going to kill Xbox in a couple of years. Basically Microsoft is planning to make the next Xbox an "ordinary" Windows computer with a different UI as well as vendor-locked hard- & software. So essentially you'll get a (maybe) slightly discounted small form-factor PC for the living room that only runs games from the Xbox store, which will be more expensive than the same games on Steam. Now, everyo…

The Steam machine costs like double an Xbox

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Post by HDBaseT »

PaulHoule wrote: post #284
inigyou wrote: post #99

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It's worse. All hardware and software in the chain must be approved for you to be allowed to watch 4K. Your browser, OS, CPU, GPU, HDMI cable , and TV must all be whitelisted before you get 4K. Very few people meet the requirements. And the 4K video is compressed to lower bitrate than a 1080p Blu-Ray anyway.

The whole "make it harder for pirates to watch in 4K" makes no sense to me, like it comes out of the psychology of people who couldn't possibly understand the psychology of other people at all. My experience is that people don't care about quality . Like there was that time I found a torrent for a movie that had 3000 seeds and found that it was shot with a camcorder in the theater and the soundtrack was in Russian bu…

You have no understanding on piracy to come to this conclusion.
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