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Towards? You need to see how many people are doing vanlife, not by choice.
How do they navigate the legal minefield?
Move the van when a police officer knocks on the window.
New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
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Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
weight is the easiest measure. wear&tear on road, mpg, damage in accident all scale with weight
> scale with weight Road damage scales with axle weight to the fourth power (w^4). So if a 500lbs motorcycle is the unit of damage, a 4,000 lbs sedan does 4,096 units of damage (4096x as much), a 6,000 lbs SUV/pickup does 20,736x, a 14,000 lbs delivery van does 614,000x, and the 80,000 lbs US federal limit 5 axle semi-trailer does 90,800,000x the damage of the motorcycle. So probably shipping stuff in trucks doesn't…
> So probably shipping stuff in trucks doesn't cost enough, and SUVs/pickups should cost 5x for road tax what sedans do.
Nope because the numbers you just posted exemplify what every knows: road cars don't even register on the radar compared to semi-trailers.
The tax for "road damage" should be approximately zero for cars, any cars, and way more expensive for semis.
But people who hate on cars don't want to hear the truth: they're all too happy to take their bicycle to go buy the milk the semis brought to their city.
Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s part of the picture, but the US also has a considerable “my vehicle is an extension of myself” or “my vehicle is a major pillar of my identity” thing going on. That’s how we ended up with so many pavement princess trucks and SUVs shoehorned in where a minivan or hatchback would’ve been a better fit.
Years ago Chrysler did some research on who was buying their SUV's and it wasn't very flattering. The terms narcissism, insecurity, status seeking and aggression all came up.
Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
#64We need a pigouvian tax based on vehicle weight to address the increased deaths due to noise pollution, collisions, and increased wear to roads.
And credits or rebates for vehicles with improved safety features? I assume the 18-tonne lorries that move most of the world’s goods would be exempt, too, or would you pass that cost on to consumers? Just make everything a bit more expensive for everyone.
Subsidies for using non-car transit would make more sense (health benefits in addition to safety and savings).
>I assume the 18-tonne lorries that move most of the world’s goods would be exempt, too, or would you pass that cost on to consumers? Just make everything a bit more expensive for everyone.
The demand for large vehicles is inelastic in the short term, but over the long term, more alternatives would be found and the share of the burden to consumers would reduce. Remember also the savings on road maintenance that consumers that pay taxes must pay for.
Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s part of the picture, but the US also has a considerable “my vehicle is an extension of myself” or “my vehicle is a major pillar of my identity” thing going on. That’s how we ended up with so many pavement princess trucks and SUVs shoehorned in where a minivan or hatchback would’ve been a better fit.
Years ago Chrysler did some research on who was buying their SUV's and it wasn't very flattering. The terms narcissism, insecurity, status seeking and aggression all came up.
> narcissism, insecurity, status seeking and aggression
So Americans?
Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
#66We need a pigouvian tax based on vehicle weight to address the increased deaths due to noise pollution, collisions, and increased wear to roads.
weight is the easiest measure. wear&tear on road, mpg, damage in accident all scale with weight
Weight and number of miles travelled aren't correlated though. If you go with a fuel tax (more difficult with EVs but not impossible) you get fuel efficiency, weight and miles travelled in one neat bundle.
Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
#67Cars have become absurd. We have an older car, and I occasionally look at what we could replace it with, and everything is huge and expensive. Literally, the only car I have been interested in is from BYD and will never be available in my country.
Mitsubishi just discontinued the car line that I drive [0]. The Mirage was great. I can drive from NYC to Boston on ~10 gallon. The only downsides were: No arm wrest, no sunglasses holder, and the media console won't turn on if you leave the car in the hot sun for a while. I'm hoping to make my next car an electric car but all of the US ones are massive. [0] - https://www.mitsubishicars.com/mirage-history
The Mitsubishi Mirage Cyborg ZR was a hell of a car.
One of the higher output 1.6 litre 4 cylinder engines there were(175hp). Taking that to its 8200 rpm redline was glorious.
But this isn't the car you're talking about.
Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
> scale with weight Road damage scales with axle weight to the fourth power (w^4). So if a 500lbs motorcycle is the unit of damage, a 4,000 lbs sedan does 4,096 units of damage (4096x as much), a 6,000 lbs SUV/pickup does 20,736x, a 14,000 lbs delivery van does 614,000x, and the 80,000 lbs US federal limit 5 axle semi-trailer does 90,800,000x the damage of the motorcycle. So probably shipping stuff in trucks doesn't…
> So probably shipping stuff in trucks doesn't cost enough, and SUVs/pickups should cost 5x for road tax what sedans do. Nope because the numbers you just posted exemplify what every knows: road cars don't even register on the radar compared to semi-trailers. The tax for "road damage" should be approximately zero for cars, any cars, and way more expensive for semis. But people who hate on cars don't want to hear the…
> But people who hate on cars don't want to hear the truth
A tad heavy on the rhetoric, wouldn't you say?
Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
#69Cars have become absurd. We have an older car, and I occasionally look at what we could replace it with, and everything is huge and expensive. Literally, the only car I have been interested in is from BYD and will never be available in my country.
Get a Honda Civic Type R
You speaking my language!
Re: New cars are getting 1.2cm longer and 0.5cm taller each year
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
From what I've ridden in the newer models it seems like internal cabin space remains the same or is genuinely getting smaller, but crumple zones keep increasing in size. There has to be some kind of ever increasing safety bar that keeps rising every year and this is the malicious compliance they're getting in response. In 2100 every car will have a total of 1 person of internal space, span the size of a city block an…
There is no malicious compliance, just compliance. Who would they be malicious to? There is enough competition, it would only hurt their bottom line
To the consumers who hate big bloated cars? It's not like people can or would say they want less safety in exchange for something smaller. There are arbitrary metrics to hit and that's all people look at. The more people say "this car looks absurd" the more it hurts their bottom line.