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The slurping of the kool-aid is not limited to SV. I've seen it at a couple of companies I've worked at in the past. Both were media/post type of studios where one you've probably heard of before and the other probably not. They both had employees that had their tongues stained the color of the kool-aid they drank. Seeing people wearing the SWAG shirts and hats of the company they work for in the office is just so cr…

I'm not a huge fan of my old company, but they had great fitted & soft T-shirts. I wish I had more...

You like advertising for something you're not a huge fan of for free? The logic fails me

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I think that's just standard across the US. But the unions are a people problem not a company problem necessarily. People can still form unions even with massive investments to squash them.. Europe has proven that. But the story told to all US workers SEEMS to be, you have to suffer and grind to make money. I might be wrong but that's the impression I get when talking with US people about unions and workers rights.

Unions primarily benefit the weakest workers, and in places like SV, usually the top workers already are getting fat plates and others are pushing hard to get there. Think of it like a football club holding a vote to flatten player pay. The benchwarmers will be falling over themselves to unionize, and the top players will be looking where to move too. This is why union efforts fail, which many find perplexing. The mo…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Players_Association

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Players_As...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_Players_...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_Actors_Guild

Aren't all of these industries where the top workers get fat plates and others are pushing hard to get there?

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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I think that's just standard across the US. But the unions are a people problem not a company problem necessarily. People can still form unions even with massive investments to squash them.. Europe has proven that. But the story told to all US workers SEEMS to be, you have to suffer and grind to make money. I might be wrong but that's the impression I get when talking with US people about unions and workers rights.

Unions primarily benefit the weakest workers, and in places like SV, usually the top workers already are getting fat plates and others are pushing hard to get there. Think of it like a football club holding a vote to flatten player pay. The benchwarmers will be falling over themselves to unionize, and the top players will be looking where to move too. This is why union efforts fail, which many find perplexing. The mo…

There is no reason pay has to be flat with a union. The highest paid members of MLBPA or SAG-AFTRA are paid 1,000x what the lowest paid members are.

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Wow red polo with a green polo underneath and double popped collars That’s a brave look

Did you mean puzzling look? Why is he wearing 2 shirts? In the 90's we would wear a long sleeve Tee under a band t-shirt, but we didn't wear multiple t-shirts...

It was a thing for a while in the early 2000s, mostly as a preppy status symbol. It was pretty much iconic SV founder uniform for a short time.

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Apple is cutthroat in business too. Tony Fadell, the inventor of the iPod and co-inventor of the iPhone, and later Nest founder, commented this in Stratechery about the lawsuit when filed: "This is Apple’s typical tactic to scare Apple employees — either former or current. I heard this lawsuit was driven by the Apple board. Steve threatened to file a lawsuit against Nest for poaching 80-100 Apple employees. He called…

Apple was the ringleader in the illegal anti-poaching agreements between SV companies a couple decades ago.

wasn't that just last decade?

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Wow red polo with a green polo underneath and double popped collars That’s a brave look

Did you mean puzzling look? Why is he wearing 2 shirts? In the 90's we would wear a long sleeve Tee under a band t-shirt, but we didn't wear multiple t-shirts...

That was a style then. It may not be your thing or mine, but it's not puzzling that someone was caught up in a fashion style of the times.

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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I'm no OpenAI apologist here, but I appreciate this perspective. Apple definitely played their timing right for maximum pre-IPO damage. It gives them tremendous negotiating leverage on a possible settlement which could give them a chunk of OpenAI.

> [OpenAI instructing recruits to exfiltrate proprietary data from their current employer] gives them tremendous negotiating leverage

wolves in wolves clothing

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Wow red polo with a green polo underneath and double popped collars That’s a brave look

Did you mean puzzling look? Why is he wearing 2 shirts? In the 90's we would wear a long sleeve Tee under a band t-shirt, but we didn't wear multiple t-shirts...

It was a preppy frat bro look of the mid-aughts.

It got pretty ridiculous. I had a few people in my classes that would do 4+ layers and show up looking like an artichoke.

https://www.verdalina.com/blogs/journal/the-popped-collar

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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Unions primarily benefit the weakest workers, and in places like SV, usually the top workers already are getting fat plates and others are pushing hard to get there. Think of it like a football club holding a vote to flatten player pay. The benchwarmers will be falling over themselves to unionize, and the top players will be looking where to move too. This is why union efforts fail, which many find perplexing. The mo…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Players_Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Players_As... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_Players_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_Actors_Guild Aren't all of these industries where the top workers get fat plates and others are pushing hard to get there?

I'll take the L, it was a poor example.

Generally when workplaces unionize, jobs are clearly delineated, and everyone in that role has a defined pay.

Re: Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI

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I think that's just standard across the US. But the unions are a people problem not a company problem necessarily. People can still form unions even with massive investments to squash them.. Europe has proven that. But the story told to all US workers SEEMS to be, you have to suffer and grind to make money. I might be wrong but that's the impression I get when talking with US people about unions and workers rights.

If Silicon Valley had unions, employee stock options would end. And along with it, most of the incentive structure that drives innovation in the valley.

Bullshit lol
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