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Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by Forgeties79 »

vehemenz wrote: post #430
badsectoracula wrote: post #222

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A local model needs 0 investment and 0 commitment, takes literal minutes to get started (especially if you have someone who is into that stuff showing you the ropes) and if you end up disliking the experience of using AI you can just `rm -fr` it and forget the whole thing existed.

Local models on regular hardware aren't really capable of anything. Whatever you're testing is nowhere near a measly $20/mo subscription, so it's of limited use.

My local model (Qwen 3.6 27b) with a basic web search tool call has proven a fantastic “dumb” assistant editor/writer when writing. It’s really breaks through my writers block.

It’s limited, it’s a bit finicky here and there, but it’s been very helpful. Mostly just gives me nuggets of ideas or shows me what I don’t want, which is informative.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by DANmode »

ilaksh wrote: post #629
DANmode wrote: post #605

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Use AI to speed up your own existing workflows that were working. Advertise that you’re there to fix AI slop attempts (you can rebuild it from scratch if you have to). You may not have the juice to sell great shovels in a gold rush. You also may . Just…be sure.

I've been using my agent harness to research and build AI services for many months. I'm honestly not that interested in cleanup work because most of what I see is not a genuine failure but just a vague request to "make it production ready" and half of them have the expectation that I will use little to no AI to do that and they think there is some magic set of best practices that will prevent any issues from popping…

You need a sales funnel providing clients with more money to spend.

Poaching clients that might be longer-term, or repeat engagements is a good way to use those platforms, but I wouldn’t rely on them solely. Primarily people trying to avoid spending on engineering!

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by bmitc »

nozzlegear wrote: post #27
toshinoriyagi wrote: post #8

They've also announced Qwen3.8-27B being released open-weight next week. Qwen3.6-27B is widely regarded as one of the best local models, especially since nothing else comes close to it, that isn't benchmaxxed, without being significantly larger. If 3.8 truly improves upon it that would be awesome.

Qwen3.6-35B is my daily driver for AI, and what convinced me to cancel my Claude subscription back in April. The Qwen3.6 line is easily the best local model I've tried, and I've tried a lot. I've got it diligently grinding away on my laptop right now, reviewing and fixing some bugs in my F# code.

How do you run Qwen? I tried setting it up the other day and got really confused with all the options between Ollama, LM Studio, and llama.cpp and also the bazillion different Qwen models available.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by senordevnyc »

anon373839 wrote: post #617
senordevnyc wrote: post #616

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You're just talking in circles. So their trademark lawsuit is about AI safety because of the leadership's holistic character? Again, you just have an axe to grind, and you've picked a poor area in which to grind it.

Let me try putting this in simpler terms: When someone says they are doing something to help you, but it really helps them, you have to choose if you trust what they say. One way to know if you can trust them is to watch how they behave. (By the way, I have been very transparent on HN that I have an axe to grind, literally referring to it as “an axe to grind”. My axe is that I think the frontier labs are a symptom of…

Yes, that’s obvious, and it’s leading you to some really specious logic.

Your simpler version still sidesteps the point that a trademark dispute has nothing to do with AI safety. Other than that you disagree with it, therefore they’re dishonest scammers, therefore AI safety is all bullshit?

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by alightsoul »

alightsoul wrote: post #527
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #312

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Water. The west is really dry. We could throw in data lines as well but it’s really bottlenecked by water. Actually the only place in China with water in abundance is southeast China. Also they really don’t have the chips to supply those data centers, and the government isn’t so crazy to go that aggressive on AI, they have lots of other priorities as well.

Chinese data centers like to use air cooled chillers for cooling, not evaporative coolers. It's simple because power for the chillers is cheaper than water for the evaporative coolers. The opposite is true in the US

For example see the data centers in china's inner mongolia region, china's data center Hub like Virginia is in the US, where Deepseek is building a data Center campus

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #618
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #614

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Try doing evaporative cooling in a swamp and tell me how that works.

So then don't do that - the US trend is towards closed-loop cooling.

Yes, you have to save water even when you don’t need to, especially in China.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by asqueella »

hippycruncher22 wrote: post #129
XCSme wrote: post #41

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If they trained it well, and can do computer use, it will be a new era. Companies can keep PCs, put Qwen 3.8 27b on it and get rid of the employees, lol...

Yes let’s get rid of employees so no one is employed but somehow they can afford to buy my stuff

Not a novel idea!

https://xcancel.com/jurijkovalenok1/status/18632434621133989... (Herluf Bidstrup's "Automation")

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Post by CyberDildonics »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #625
CyberDildonics wrote: post #621

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Right. That's, well, not a rule of thumb. Asking how much of a bottle of water is, well, water, and someone says "well, a good rule of thumb is that it's all water", is just an answer. You don't need an estimate when, well, there is nothing to estimate.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Anyway, more seriously, I hope it's obvious by now that I don't particularly care that my means of communication is so offensive to you. I think you should, like, cry a river, build a bridge, then, well... get over it, you know? And on the, er, "topic"? A rule of thumb for me does not have to be one for you, even if it's explicitly presented as such a rule. I thought…

A rule of thumb is, well, an estimation. 1 = 1 isn't an estimation, it's just, well, the same number.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by [deleted] »

jiggawatts wrote: post #577
gpugreg wrote: post #411

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Personally, I prefer QDirStat. I just tried to use FileLight to compare, but the package seems to be broken on Lubuntu.

You two have just listed several tools needs to clean up after another tool: not a strong argument for “simpler”.

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