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The AI Demand Bubble

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Re: The AI Demand Bubble

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This guy has zero zip nada null AI background. He is a videogame reviewer and PR guy. He is a pure influencer feeding on the AI backlash he helped to create. He has been predicting a crash for how many years now? And while I can totally see Anthropic and OpenAI going through some things on the way to post-IPO FMV, those things do not include AI going away. It truly doesn't matter whether closed source Frontier lab mo…

Yes - correct. I have been saying this since this guy gained eminence.

Re: The AI Demand Bubble

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post #50

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His predictions don’t matter… what matters is the thesis and what it is based upon. Literally nobody can predict to the month or even year when a bubble will pop. But you can identify and document that a bubble exists, and what the actors are doing. When reading an article you’re supposed to analyze the actual thesis, not just evaluate if the person is an oracle or not

If you fervently posit a theory but its predictions fail, why would anyone believe it?

Because it’s economics, a social science. Not a physics experiment you can replicate in a lab. You do what a serious person does: look at the thesis, look at the sources, look at the numbers, and do your own analysis

Re: The AI Demand Bubble

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Would you expect someone in the AI industry to predict the collapse of the AI industry? I'm sure there weren't a ton of bankers predicting the mortgage collapse of 2008 but I, a young programmer of mortgage software could see something was weird (but didn't realize that it wasn't the norm).

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Fully possible to square those two things. Like, if you were young and you knew even trivial things about how much your parents or relatives earned, you might have thought “how can they afford this new house” but then see others getting new houses and assume that your own limited knowledge is at fault, when in fact the situation was a mix of irrational exuberance, ignorance, greed, head-in-the-sand avoidance, blind eyes turned to fraud, and absurd rates of commission and mis-selling, and your naïve common sense interpretation was correct.

In retrospect it seems that one of the hallmarks of a property boom is people being persuaded they can afford mortgages they can't, or persuaded to round up, pad their application, and willing naïve people lining up to be sold stuff they can't afford, out of an urge to take advantage of what is being sold as a golden opportunity.

In this bubble, one of the hallmarks is CEOs pressuring employees to use AI, urging suppliers to sell them AI solutions they can report to their investors, etc.; people are eager to buy things with fully unproven value out of an urge to take advantage of what is being sold as a golden opportunity.

Re: The AI Demand Bubble

#65

This guy has zero zip nada null AI background. He is a videogame reviewer and PR guy. He is a pure influencer feeding on the AI backlash he helped to create. He has been predicting a crash for how many years now? And while I can totally see Anthropic and OpenAI going through some things on the way to post-IPO FMV, those things do not include AI going away. It truly doesn't matter whether closed source Frontier lab mo…

This is a non-argument and your comment is currently at top of this thread. You have not rebutted a single claim Zitron makes.

You called him him an influencer, waved at "practitioners" and declared that token factories will be fine because that is your opinion.

If his analysis is wrong, identify the error.

Re: The AI Demand Bubble

#66

I'm seeing this guy everywhere. He was on Bloomberg a day ago and then on another channel and now here. I'm curious why there are not more people like him voicing their concerns. Makes you wonder if he is completely wrong.

There is a lot of demand for AI denial, but nearly everybody who is capable of writing even semi-coherently on the topic recognizes AI denial in general as cope, and has too much moral dignity to propogate their coping denial for personal gain.

So the ~one guy who doesn't gets around.

Re: The AI Demand Bubble

#67
100% of my income in the "employment" segment is coming from a single employer. That's an unsustainable level of concentration, showing there just isn't sufficient demand for my skills. Bubble!

Re: The AI Demand Bubble

#68
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So in a couple years now, AI will be as gone as cabbage patch kids and pet rocks? IMO that's anti-AI Psychosis, the evil twin of believing GPT-4o was sentient. And a really bad case of it is labeling anyone who disagrees with you in any way as having AI Psychosis for doing so. And your first line sounds exactly like that to me. IMO coding agents alone have made AI viable. Healthcare applications have done the same, b…

> So in a couple years now, AI will be as gone as cabbage patch kids and pet rocks? > IMO that's anti-AI Psychosis, the evil twin of believing GPT-4o was sentient. IMO that’s a particularly scraggly straw man. Even Ed Zitron, who we can stipulate is among the most cynical, thinks that some value will be left after the bubble either deflates or bursts.

So some value, but how much value? You clearly don't like the idea there are some businesses in the AI mix that will continue making money and/or diversify their divisions to cover for any losses they suffer during this hypothetical crash or I wouldn't be getting downvoted for it. META, for example, is running a gross margin of 80% or so right now. You really think they're in trouble?

So really, after all of these companies are wiped off the map because the bubble popped and they went broke, what will be left? Let's get specific here. Let's make some hard falsifiable predictions.

I predict bumpy IPOs for Anthropic and OpenAI, maybe even ending in acquisition instead. I predict anything with a PE over 100 is in trouble. But I also predict anyone with a PE of 40 or less is going to be just fine. Like Michael Burry said, just like Cisco, now running a PE in the high 30s after going through some things. Finally, coding agents are here to stay and they will only get better and cheaper, but they are unlikely to replace common sense meatbags.

So what are your predictions?

Re: The AI Demand Bubble

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I don’t see how “This guy has no experience in the field he is actively commentating on. None of his predictions have come to pass.” is an ad hominem. The critiques are directly relevant to the subject matter.

Would you expect someone in the AI industry to predict the collapse of the AI industry? I'm sure there weren't a ton of bankers predicting the mortgage collapse of 2008 but I, a young programmer of mortgage software could see something was weird (but didn't realize that it wasn't the norm).

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Re: The AI Demand Bubble

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post #58

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Its up 80% on the year. How do your investments compare?

This is the most misquoted bit in that whole fiasco. He apparently had to sell every liquid thing in the portfolio. What’s left is allegedly just some highly illiquid paper assets that they’ve also been trying to unload. The present value of those is iffy at best and may well also plummet before they can be cashed in. That “80%” can’t be realized right now in any traditional sense. No matter how you slice it the whol…

He was lucky to be managing any money at all, the West Coast smiling upon him did not translate into East Coast excitement:

> When this star of San Francisco arrived in New York during his fund-raising tour around last summer, however, he received a relatively cool reception, according to three people from whom he tried to raise money, who declined to be identified talking about a private fund. They said they viewed him as a lightweight and a one-hit wonder. The asset management colossus Blackstone, the world’s largest investor in hedge funds, passed on investing, according to two of those people.

> One wealthy New York investor who did take the meeting welcomed Mr. Aschenbrenner into his downtown office, and then gave him a grilling, according to the investor, who declined to be named publicly because he had agreed to keep the contents of the fund’s pitch private.

> What was Mr. Aschenbrenner’s plan if the A.I. revolution didn’t pan out quite as hoped? The hedge-fund founder had no detailed response, the investor recalled. Mr. Aschenbrenner simply truly believed it would all work out.

(as quoted in https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/newsletters/2026-08-03/hed..., originally from https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/31/business/situational-awar...)

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