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Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Even if prices were in line with Germanys neighbors, that does not mean a lot. Germanys industry is notoriously energy hungry. Germany is home of the biggest chemical companies in the world and they need easy access to gas, oil, electricity etc. Also the car industry is obviously still big. And so on. Most countries in the world lost their industrial base during the last 20-40 years but Germany kept it for the most p…

I was just pointing out that the claim that it has abnormally high energy prices among developed nations isn't quite true. I do agree though, that even just having 'normal' energy prices for a developed nation makes it very hard to be an industrial powerhouse. IMO the only way forward is for Germany to build more energy infrastructure. Most importantly, we need more solar wind and batteries, but we also need upgrades…

How is closing your nuclear plants working out for you?

Germany burns the lowest grade coal known to man to make up for the loss of its nuclear fleet. Germany has one of the dirtiest grids in the world and the dirtiest grid in the developed world. And for reference, a single NPP makes roughly 600 GW hours of power a month. Germany closed down about 15 NPPs which would make several times as much power as the solar PV in the article. More than enough to power everyone's ACs.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Germany's electrical prices are mostly in line with it's neighbours, not super high. If a company makes good usage of batteries, they could actually have quite low prices since the electrical price undergoes huge swings throughout the day. All spring through fall the spot price goes to or near zero at midday almost daily. Throughout the winter, wind is a bit more random but causes spells of high prices and spells of…

> Germany's electrical prices are mostly in line with it's neighbours PL: ~21ct/kWh LX: ~20ct/kWh AT: ~19ct/kWh NL: ~19ct/kWh BE: ~17ct/kWh FR: ~16ct/kWh DK: ~9ct/kWh Germany: 23ct/kWh (or: about 25% higher than the EU average)[0] Of course Germany "is mostly in line" if your ideology depends on it. [0] https://cubeconcepts.de/en/europes-industrial-electricity-pr...

For reference, that's about 4x the worldwide average electricity price.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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The OP talked about drought, not current heat. Dro(a)ught monitor: https://www.ufz.de/index.php?de=37937

Drought, not draught. A bit of draught would be kind of nice about now.

Thanks. Yeah! :-D

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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The further we go down the renewables route the less we depend on despotic states for our energy. Energy may well be cheap in the US but you have been paying for that for decades through military misadventures in the middle east.

It’s not possible to truly estimate what our military costs would be without those conflicts, but I would be interested in our energy costs if you incorporated the military costs into that. I’m willing to bet we pay more than nearly anyone else if you lump it in relatively fairly.

The GWOT was 7% of the US military budget. Also, the US doesn't get oil from the Middle East anymore. Its been about 10 years since we did.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Thats around 20 EUR per month - please tell us the provider! :-))

https://www.enercity.de

I see only basis (without any kWh consumed) costs:

> Grundpreis: 15,54 € / Monat

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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But it is (should be) cheap to power the AC now.

That reminds me of my friend who wants to fly around the world to see the Great Barrier Reef before it's gone.

Not exactly the same. Buildout of the grid in Germany lacks behind buildout of renewable capacity. Thus, when we have strong winds or a lot of sun, a lot of renewable production actually gets blocked at the source and/or the price of electricity goes to 0 or even negative (though you still pay taxes, so for the conumser, usage isn't free even with dynamic tariffs).

In these scenarios, using more (renewable) electricity actually has no net effect at all, as it is purely from additional production, which is only available because you use it. I live in a region in Germany with a lot of wind and solar and I regularly see my PV plant be capped by the local energy company and the wind turbines around my village standing still despite a stiff breeze. Every kwh I use from my own PV in this case is free energy in the most expansive meaning of the word.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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I'm a consumer in Germany, and I pay 250€ for 1.200 kWh (my yearly consumption). I don't know anyone who is paying those high prices mentioned in the articles. There are many electricity providers in Germany, and that creates competition; therefore, you get a lot of cash back by switching providers.

Thats around 20 EUR per month - please tell us the provider! :-))

It's most likely due to a rebate or cash back when changing providers. You can save a lot of money by switching providers every 12 months and taking cash back into account. If you have dispatchable loads (i.e. flexible charging of an electric vehicle) and a suitable electricity meter, you can also save a lot of money be choosing a dynamic tariff that tracks market prices (plus taxes etc).

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Glass half full, I suppose. Germany is in the grip of an unusual and prolonged drought -- clear skies, intense daytime heat, no rain. > https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78gn8zvrx4o I'm near Graz, in Austria, where we're also in the middle of a drought and in truth I can't remember a summer as hot as this one...

Vienna, Austria, checking in .. I'm Australian, been here for decades, this is definitely the warmest I've experienced it. I love it though, feels like home. ;)

Warmest anybody in Vienna has experienced, haha.

Today the all-time record in Austria was broken with 40.8°C (105.4°F) in Vienna.

> https://www.krone.at/4242196

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Glass half full, I suppose. Germany is in the grip of an unusual and prolonged drought -- clear skies, intense daytime heat, no rain. > https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78gn8zvrx4o I'm near Graz, in Austria, where we're also in the middle of a drought and in truth I can't remember a summer as hot as this one...

To be frank the best summer I’ve ever had in Berlin. Everyday warm and sunny and love it.

I was there last week. It was 37 degrees one day. Not most peoples' idea of a good time.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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https://www.enercity.de

I see only basis (without any kWh consumed) costs: > Grundpreis: 15,54 € / Monat

There is cash back. When I bought my contract, I got 250€ + 90€ cash back in total after paying the first invoice.
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