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Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by eigenspace »

myk9001 wrote: post #107
eigenspace wrote: post #52

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Coal usage in Germany has continued to shrink throughout the nuclear shutdown. It's at the lowest level it's been since the early days of industrialization. I agree that nuclear should not have been phased out at the very least until coal was gone, but don't make up shit and say that they made up for the nuclear exit by burning more coal, that is untrue. Germany made up for it by building more renewables.

> ... don't make up shit and say that they made up for the nuclear exit by burning more coal, that is untrue. It's true, though. Emotions seem to be clouding your judgment. Renewables could've been replacing coal. Instead, they're making up for the lost nuclear capacity.

Renewables are replacing coal and nuclear simultaneously. Coal usage was consistently dropping before and continued to consistently drop after the nuclear phase out.

I agree if coal was banned before nuclear, the new renewable capcacity added could have done more to replace a huge source of emissions faster. It was a failure of education, media, and political will that Germany phased out nuclear before coal.

That does not however mean that coal usage increased after nuclear was phased out, such a claim is just false.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by mertbio »

KellyCriterion wrote: post #100
mertbio wrote: post #33

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I'm a consumer in Germany, and I pay 250€ for 1.200 kWh (my yearly consumption). I don't know anyone who is paying those high prices mentioned in the articles. There are many electricity providers in Germany, and that creates competition; therefore, you get a lot of cash back by switching providers.

Thats around 20 EUR per month - please tell us the provider! :-))

https://www.enercity.de

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by tfourb »

swiftcoder wrote: post #62
stkdump wrote: post #27

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817 kWh here. Though june last year was the record at 904 kWh. Maybe the effect is that solar panels lose efficiency when too hot.

> Maybe the effect is that solar panels lose efficiency when too hot They do. One of the odd fringe benefits of agrovoltaics is that the plants beneath the panel slightly lower the panel temperatures through transpiration.

Same effect for green (planted) roofs. They can increase pv production above them by around 5% annually our installer told us.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by MomsAVoxell »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #3

Glass half full, I suppose. Germany is in the grip of an unusual and prolonged drought -- clear skies, intense daytime heat, no rain. > https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78gn8zvrx4o I'm near Graz, in Austria, where we're also in the middle of a drought and in truth I can't remember a summer as hot as this one...

Vienna, Austria, checking in .. I'm Australian, been here for decades, this is definitely the warmest I've experienced it. I love it though, feels like home. ;)

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by onraglanroad »

spwa4 wrote: post #59
fhdkweig wrote: post #45

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We stopped high sulfur when we realized it was causing acid rain. CO2 is also acidifying the oceans, so there aren't a lot of things we can pump into the atmosphere without consequence. Best to avoid doing that altogether.

We won't stop pumping CO2 into the atmosphere (Germany, India and China actually increased coal burning in 2026, in all 3 cases despite all the good news about solar installations). Also we can't prevent fossil fuel producers from digging up fossil fuels. And, because of entropy, reducing CO2 already in the atmosphere is a non-starter. For one thing, one can reasonably assume that would at minimum require doubling hu…

I don't think it's as dire as you're supposing. I hadn't expected the rollout of renewables and the growth of EVs to be as swift as we've seen.

If we can cut emissions entirely then that's the first step. Next devote 5% of energy generation to CO2 removal and we'll take out a year of 100% emissions in less than 20 years. We don't need to go back down to 280 ppm, something like 320 would be fine. It's a long term project but it can work.

Need step one first though.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by myk9001 »

k_g_b_ wrote: post #106
eigenspace wrote: post #52

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Coal usage in Germany has continued to shrink throughout the nuclear shutdown. It's at the lowest level it's been since the early days of industrialization. I agree that nuclear should not have been phased out at the very least until coal was gone, but don't make up shit and say that they made up for the nuclear exit by burning more coal, that is untrue. Germany made up for it by building more renewables.

This. Plus the fact that it would have been politically absolutely infeasible to get anyone except the Greens to agree on a coal before nuclear phase out at any point until at least 2018. SPD, CDU especially were and are very close to to the coal industry (voters, company boards, etc.). In addition, without the Greens-pushed and initiated renewables subsidies, there would have been basically no big market worldwide f…

> ... Greens-pushed and initiated renewables subsidies, there would have been basically no big market worldwide for solar...

Are you referring specifically to a German political party?

Because that's a lot of credit to attribute to a single party in a single country.

It might be well deserved, but seeing some supporting data would be nice.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by MomsAVoxell »

Aldipower wrote: post #73
ben_w wrote: post #12

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https://www.hitzewarnungen.de/index.jsp https://weatherkit.apple.com/alertDetails/index.html?ids=081... I'd describe it a little differently myself.

The OP talked about drought, not current heat. Dro(a)ught monitor: https://www.ufz.de/index.php?de=37937

Drought, not draught. A bit of draught would be kind of nice about now.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by tialaramex »

AlexandrB wrote: post #24

> He noted that the term “solar subsidy” can be misleading, as it implies that every kilowatt-hour of solar electricity fed into the grid is fully funded by public money. > The IWR explained that Germany’s Renewable Energy Sources Act (EEG) operates on a differential cost model for new photovoltaic systems. Under the mechanism, electricity generated by solar installations is first sold on the power exchange, with the…

> There's a policy failure somewhere if the cheapness to produce energy this way is not being reflected in the market and subsidy structure. Does anyone have an analysis of wtf is going on?

We are still paying for renewable energy projects agreed in say 2016 for ten years or indeed 2006 for twenty years. The "cheapest to produce" is a fact about new energy not about what it still costs us for things we agreed to in the past.

I don't look at German data but I do stare at UK data a lot and the model isn't so different. In 2015 this country finished "Allocation Round One" of the current mechanism for these subsidies. Offshore wind farms got about £120 per MWh [in 2012 prices] in that auction and by 2016 the first of these wind farms was running. £120 per MWh isn't a good price by today's standards even if it wasn't in 2012 money, but we have to keep paying that price for those wind farms because that's how deals work (unless you're Donald Trump)

This year, in "Allocation Round Seven" offshore wind auctioned for about £65 [still in 2012 prices]. That's still not a great price today, the Solar farms are significantly cheaper, but given that the afore-mentioned Tangerine Palpatine caused gas prices to shoot up this price is actually not uncompetitive. However, that power doesn't actually exist today, the auction was for rights those wind farms will get built over the next year or three and the £65 per MWh power won't be lighting my home until about 2028.

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by Aldipower »

atoav wrote: post #108
Aldipower wrote: post #6

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Southern Germany to be more precise. Northern Germany is slightly affected, but nothing unusual.

Yeah? I live in Northern Germany for more than a decade now and in the past months I have witnessed multiple of the hottest days during these ten years, including one where my thermometer measured a whopping 37°C at midnight .

You are the second one who isn't referring to the OP. It is about drought, not heat!

Re: Germany Records Historic 12B KWh Solar Feed-In in July 2026

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Post by [deleted] »

java-man wrote: post #82
toasty228 wrote: post #35

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> Why Is Europe Warming Twice as Fast as the World Average? You'll find articles about every single land mass "warming up faster than average"... that's because the average include the 70% of the planet that is covered by oceans, these don't warm up nearly as fast as landmasses. We're all pretending we'll manage +1.5c or +2c by 2050, and in the average Joe's head that not much, in reality we're already fucked, July w…

Sabine explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9cDpdTlQrc

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