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There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf]

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Re: There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf]

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The most striking incongruity with our modern era to me is that the family was all outside when the blast occurred. With pervasive screens, we just don't get outside like we used to. And why on earth was that dad mowing when the house was able to take care of it?

To smell fresh cut grass. It can be quite enjoyable.

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Re: There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf]

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Born in 1968 I missed “duck and cover” but rode the wave of Reagan brinkmanship with my skater friends until 1990, watching all the broadcast TV PSAs and songs and art about nuclear war. It was real. It pervaded daily life: the notion that two old white men were having a pissing contest with every human as disposable bargaining chips. And as always, 25% of the US population cheered for purification of the planet beca…

I'm born in Norway in 1975, and in the early 80's, while we didn't have "duck and cover" we had regular air-raid siren tests and my primary schools basement was a bomb shelter that doubled as an activity space.

The sirens still exist, but the test schedule has slowed dramatically.

Re: There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf]

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I read this story in 4th grade. It felt like the future. Now, it feels like most of the technology is within reach - at least, it could be built. The automated stove being the main exception. But the most unrealistic part of this story is how all the IoT automation continues to work in the absence of the Internet.

IoT works just fine with Zigbee that can be 100% local.

Most of which you don't need IMO. When a bunch of stuff had to be redone after a kitchen fire, I told my electrician that I wanted everything to be dumb.

Re: There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf]

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The most striking incongruity with our modern era to me is that the family was all outside when the blast occurred. With pervasive screens, we just don't get outside like we used to. And why on earth was that dad mowing when the house was able to take care of it?

To be alone for an hour.

this guy gets it

Re: There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf]

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It would necessarily let heat leak in

I wonder if you could use two sheets of glass, and have a double-paned system. Maybe even with vacuum or some gas that's an even poorer conductor of heat than air in it.

This is one for windows --- unfortunately, even the best such windows have a markedly lower R-factor than the much less expensive typical door construction.

Such refrigerators are available for commercial applications --- where the on-going energy usage is offset by the need for customer access, but it would be a huge impact on one's electric bill.

Re: There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf]

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The most striking incongruity with our modern era to me is that the family was all outside when the blast occurred. With pervasive screens, we just don't get outside like we used to. And why on earth was that dad mowing when the house was able to take care of it?

The things we enjoy doing, we prefer to do ourselves. For example: coding.

Man, if only I wasn't so burnt out. I've still been day-dreaming about architecture and design for my side-projects. I haven't had a chance to sit down and get into the flow state like I used to.

Re: There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf]

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I thought this might have been the one about the lush (but dangerous!) Venusian rainforest! (In Bradbury's time, we knew Venus was covered in thick clouds, and could only speculate about what might be beneath the clouds. Clouds = rain = lush vegetation?)

Same, seeing the title and having not read Bradbury for a long time I was thinking either The Veldt or that one (The Long Rain). I did remember it on reading, though, and it's an unsettling feeling.

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It'll be a US or Japanese or South Korean robot since it's not allowed to come from China. I'd be in favor of Apple entering that market. I think they'll be a huge first-mover advantage because of the Chinese blockade preventing cheap clones.

Sorry, in the US it's, AFAIK, now not allowed to come from anywhere but the US: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/fcc-bans-future-roomba... The admin seems to have a tendency to fearmonger over China and then ban or tariff globally. Allies don't exist apparently.

> Allies don't exist apparently.

Aren't our only "allies" Russia and North Korea now?

Re: There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf]

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Because those other groups are not privileged. Criticizing the people in power is always okay and it should be encouraged.

The parent comment is getting dunked on because it feels rich for the majority racial group to claim aggrieved status.

But I agree that adding the whiteness status of the men doesn't add to the story. The distinguishing characteristics of the men were they were rich and powerful. There are many people in the United States who despite their whiteness, suffer injustice, lived in poverty, and are oppressed by powerful interests.

The above does not erase the fact that systemic racism impacts Black and Hispanic Americans significantly to this day, and work to mitigate this should continue.

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Is it? There are lots of wonderful US Christians who believe in kindness and compassion and love. There are also lots of US Christians who are deep into end-times insanity, like Christian Zionists. Perhaps the 25% number is high, but this is a very real thing.

I do not disagree that there are some, but 25% is a massive overstatement, not merely "perhaps" high.

It's hard to find specific surveys covering exactly that, but given the widespread belief among US adults that we are living in the end-times and beliefs in being raptured, 25% if anything seems low:

"About four-in-ten U.S. adults believe humanity is ‘living in the end times’"

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/12/08/about-fou...

"Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats to believe they will be taken up in the biblical Rapture, according to a new YouGov poll."

"The September 23 poll of 4,041 U.S. adults found that 63 percent of Republicans said they would be more likely to be taken up, compared with 40 percent of Democrats and 36 percent of independents. "

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-more-likely-to-believe-...

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