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US Military asks troops for 'creative and unconventional' ideas to punish Iran

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Re: US Military asks troops for 'creative and unconventional' ideas to punish Iran

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Could be deliberate theater. The real plan is a containment and a slow economic collapse of Iran anyway. If the EU and Japan pay higher energy costs, that is an added bonus for Trump.

> The real plan is a containment and a slow economic collapse of Iran anyway.

Quite optimistic to assume that there ever was a plan. Reminds me of the '4D chess' masterminds sitting in the Kremlin.

Re: US Military asks troops for 'creative and unconventional' ideas to punish Iran

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Could be deliberate theater. The real plan is a containment and a slow economic collapse of Iran anyway. Doesn't seem like there's a coherent plan. What you are saying is the old plan from long before Trump, that was torpedoed. Going back to that is saying they've failed in whatever this was. Also that is iran's plan as well, survive while the US suffers and eventually gives up like Vietnam ... > If the EU and Japa…

> The only one profiting is China since they've mostly transitioned away from oil... They had to use their own oil reserves to regulate the market, where they win is in soft power

> soft power

hows that going for them?

Re: US Military asks troops for 'creative and unconventional' ideas to punish Iran

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Turn all the under-mountain missile cities into super-mega-mall-cities with Whole Foods, McDonalds, indoor shooting ranges, nail salons, super-walmarts, hotels, apartments, casinos, mega strip clubs and free e-bikes to get from business to business as the tunnels go on for miles. Free unlimited, uncensored WiFi, everywhere. Air conditioning, everywhere. Make each section walking-friendly. Import millions of tourists.…

Uh the problem is Iranians have no purchasing power because of runaway inflation due to crushing US-imposed sanctions. None of the above would be possible without first ending sanctions.

Sanctions where circumvented by russia and china. The economic malaise was caused by using the oil wealth to fund proxxies.

Re: US Military asks troops for 'creative and unconventional' ideas to punish Iran

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Could be deliberate theater. The real plan is a containment and a slow economic collapse of Iran anyway. If the EU and Japan pay higher energy costs, that is an added bonus for Trump.

You say 'The Real Plan' like there was any amount of planning done in the first place. We've now found ourselves on top of a bucking bronco, with every 'exit' looking worse than previous status quo.

There are short term and long term plans. The long term plans are:

- Remove Ghaddafi and have chaos in Libya (accomplished).

- Remove Saddam and have chaos in Iraq (accomplished).

- Install a puppet regime in Egypt and suppress the muslim brotherhood (accomplished).

- Remove Assad and install an ex al-Qaeda (note the irony) puppet (accomplished).

- Have regime change in Iran (ongoing).

Syria took nearly a decade. The US does not need outright military victory, it uses proxies and will at some point try to activate the Kurds or someone else.

If Iran is destabilized enough to undermine the Caspian Sea coalition and get the resources of Turkmenistan, that is also a victory. Unless the other theory is right and the US wants to export its resources first.

We don't know the exact plans, but the grand scheme is not Trump's idea. It goes back to the Bush era.

It can be true that Trump was the useful idiot who actually signed off the Iran plan, which another president may not have done. But the plans are there, including Caspian sea plans from decades ago.

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