Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple is getting this wrong

openai.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

251–260 of 312 posts

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#251

Post by kilroy123 »

brap wrote: post #64

Many years ago, back when I was a junior, I wrote something like this to my manager, complaining about another employee who has wronged me. I eventually decided not to send it because it just seemed so unprofessional. Wild that a company this big would post this on their official, public blog.

I think this is a good way to vent. I've done that a few times. Typed up a long, angry rant. Only to delete it.

Just make sure this is on your computer and not in a Slack DM or draft email. Don't want to accidentally hit send.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#252

Post by [deleted] »

bob1029 wrote: post #97
eurleif wrote: post #33

>They now admit that their outside lawyers emailed the wrong person after confusing two Asian last names—only after we brought this to their attention. I find it bizarre that they felt the need to specify "Asian". What does that have to do with anything?

Roughly one in five Koreans have surname "Kim". Upward of 40% Vietnamese have surname "Nguyen". "Li" is quite popular in China. Specifying "Asian last name" in this context is quite apt.

[deleted]

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#253

Post by dgellow »

numpad0 wrote: post #162
eurleif wrote: post #33

>They now admit that their outside lawyers emailed the wrong person after confusing two Asian last names—only after we brought this to their attention. I find it bizarre that they felt the need to specify "Asian". What does that have to do with anything?

Latin alphabet transcription of East Asian languages tend to be incredibly lossy and there tends to be a lot of ambiguities. That Vietnamese surname of Nguyen is formally written as Nguyễn in the current script, or as 阮 in the old adapted Hanzi script, and practically pronounced somewhere around "gwen". Most other EA countries tend to do equivalents of "阮" -> "gwen", and East Asian cultures generally prefer Last-Firs…

Yes, but why specify it? Why not just say „they confused 2 people with the same name“? Adding „Asian“ doesn’t add anything to the story other than flagging Apple as casually racist

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#254

Post by dgellow »

bob1029 wrote: post #97
eurleif wrote: post #33

>They now admit that their outside lawyers emailed the wrong person after confusing two Asian last names—only after we brought this to their attention. I find it bizarre that they felt the need to specify "Asian". What does that have to do with anything?

Roughly one in five Koreans have surname "Kim". Upward of 40% Vietnamese have surname "Nguyen". "Li" is quite popular in China. Specifying "Asian last name" in this context is quite apt.

But what makes that necessary context? That can be communicated clearly without specifying Asian, „Apple confused 2 people with the same name“. Adding Asian sort of excuse Apple for the mistake, which is strange for OpenAI to do? I would tend to believe they are implying some casual racism

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#255

Post by stiltzkin »

efnx wrote: post #26

Is it normal for a company this big to make a public blog post like this with almost no introduction to what they’re on about? I would expect them to start out with something like Apple is suing us for yada yada yada, but instead it reads like the diary of a hurt teenager.

[dead]

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#256

Post by general1465 »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #143
bartman wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The timeline OpenAI wants to present looks like this to me: - Leaving employee (LE) needs a USB stick to copy data off their Mac to give to their Manager (MA) so someone at Apple still has access - After LE left, MA has access to LE Mac and iCloud to still access some data - At some point, LE asks MA to sign out off LE's iMessage account on that Mac as they suspect they'll get OpenAI-related messages soon and don't w…

Granted, Apple does do this weird thing where you're invited to use your personal iCloud (/Apple) account for work-related things (I suspect because they're just bad at supporting multiple accounts simultaneously). As part of the deal, your iCloud account gets upgraded during your employment. But they're also quite explicit and repeat the directive (including during the exit interview) about removing Apple files from…

I am actually confused why creating an email john.doe@apple.com and separated employees work only iCloud on the email is such a problem and they want people to use personal iCloud? Not even corporate stuck in 90s does that.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#258

Post by xg15 »

ethbr1 wrote: post #235
efnx wrote: post #26

Is it normal for a company this big to make a public blog post like this with almost no introduction to what they’re on about? I would expect them to start out with something like Apple is suing us for yada yada yada, but instead it reads like the diary of a hurt teenager.

No. This is a fucking legal case. It will be decided in the courtroom, not on the internet. Posting this is insane in the sense of "What will posting this possibly improve for OpenAI?" It's not going to change the court case. It's not going to impress professional adults. I guess... teenage reddit users with too much time on their hands who are fans of OpenAI? Though struggling to see how that demo would care about a…

Was reminded of SBF and his series of "I can explain everything" blog posts and interviews that somehow always made the thing worse...

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#259

Post by Barbing »

Controversial! (and possible followup) Post off front page, down onto third page.

  Rank 78, 248 points, +10hr, 244 comments
Almost wish the thread could get locked instead, but maybe only almost…

-

Also, for coverage: FT picked this up, syndicated here: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/08/openai-says-appl...

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#260

Post by dwaltrip »

bombcar wrote: post #221
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that Jobs was a good writer and made a clear point in a succinct fashion.

Jobs was an asshole but at least you could usually see where he was coming from.

He was a complete asshole, but he wasn't an unhinged sociopath like Sam.
Post reply on HN