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AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Post by atomicfiredoll »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #103
sunrunner wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's about what you created But you didn't create anything in this case. Not the images at least. Which then casts doubt on the rest of the writing in said blog post.

But you didn't create anything if you used Photoshop... You didn't create anything if you used synth and autotune... You didn't do any scientific research if you used a calculator. You didn't do anything if you just piped together two programs. I've heard it all before. Gate keepers wanna keep the gate as long as they can.

These statements are factually untrue or overly broad to the extent of being nonsensical. Hopefully, you can see how that would come off as incredibly disingenuous. [E.g. what did they autotune? What did they Photoshop? Probably some creative work that they or somebody else made.]

[Edit: Further, these don't really line up with what the comment you're responding to is saying. If all you did was write a prompt for an image, it gives the impression that you may have done the same for the text. At that point, if I care about what the AI has to say, I can just write a prompt to an AI myself.]

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Post by [deleted] »

jibal wrote: post #79
merelydev wrote: post #25

This is not surprising. Would you rather have handmade Italian shoes or factory made shoes sewn by a robot. Humans assign quality relative to themselves. A chess game between to bots is boring, no matter how strong the bots are. Humans generally compare themselves to other humans and that's part of how they value.

> Would you rather have handmade Italian shoes or factory made shoes sewn by a robot. The latter, of course, which is why that's what I own. Aside from that, this is an absurd and grossly dishonest analogy -- that's not at all the choice here. Some of the most fascinating games are between Stockfish and Leela. (e.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_84B_VwayU -- this is narrated by National Master "Jerry", one of th…

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Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Post by nhinck2 »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #34
zmmmmm wrote: post #8

To me there are different motivations to include imagery and some of them are just fine with AI generation. If the imagery actually goes to the substance of helping to illustrate or explain the actual content then it seems very superficial to reject it based on how it was generated. In fact it is kind of stupid to insist someone slavishly draw something by hand that could have been done an easier way. The problem com…

For every AI snob that's not reading an article because they see an AI image, there's 10 non-snobs who appreciate a decent usage. If you're creating complete slop, no one is reading your article in the first place. Full stop. The image doesn't matter. As with anything, it's about what you created, and creating at all - not the tool you used to create. The snobs and haters will continue to b!tch and moan. They always…

Hmm, I wonder why you're taking this so personally...

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Post by dofm »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #50
Laurel1234 wrote: post #38

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Photography is a form of art and requires human work and creativity, it isn't some clanker slop.

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Serious question: are you having a particularly bad day or week? Because this was really rude and you appear to have poured out a lot more irritation than was merited.

If it were not for this, as a geeky photographer I'd get into it with you about whether Ansel Adams was really an artist, whether he's any particular benchmark or high water mark for photography, and whether individual creations are any less artistic than what he did.

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Post by hk__2 »

notRobot wrote: post #109
ordu wrote: post #90

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> Public shaming... People already tried to cancel others because they didn't agree with them. Eventually the most of people came to a conclusion that it is no good. I think at least that the most did just that. So I'm proposing another solution, just ignore what you don't like. No one is forcing you to read a blog that uses AI generated images or uses a wrong color for its background.

I don't know what you really mean by "cancelling", but I think it's totally fine (and even good) to talk about the flaws in stuff.

It’s totally fine to talk privately with someone. Public shaming tend to have very negative effects.

Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Post by CuriouslyC »

sodapopcan wrote: post #85
CuriouslyC wrote: post #22

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LOL, TF are you talking about? It's neither a political nor ethical, it's practical. It's about not wasting your previous time on earth reading garbage the author doesn't understand themselves.

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Post by ModernMech »

cryptopian wrote: post #52
ModernMech wrote: post #9

I find them very interesting and they make me more likely to remember your blog. I was reading that Gas Town post yesterday and despite all the backlash about the whimsical world and the ai images being sloppy and wrong, they still stuck in my brain more than anything else I’ve read this year. The author say they’d prefer Microsoft paint images but actually I don’t think this is true of most audiences. People have th…

On the other hand, plenty of art can lean into being intentionally brash and be all the more memorable for it. The phrase "bad MS paint blog" immediately makes me think of Hyperbole and a Half[1] where the style feeds into the zany ADHD vibe of the blog. Often, you find ugliness and rule breaking as a backlash to an overly polished status quo. AM radio rock gave way to punk, hair metal gave way to grunge, and EDM gav…

Yeah that’s cool as an intentional style. Here’s my favorite example, and the style definitely caused it to be sticky and viral:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjgl2baLs

If the blog is otherwise not about being amusing or edgy, then the MS Paint is going to send a different vibe. In your examples the paint sets the vibe, which I think is what they were going for.

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Post by righthand »

derektank wrote: post #72
sunrunner wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's about what you created But you didn't create anything in this case. Not the images at least. Which then casts doubt on the rest of the writing in said blog post.

There is an artistry in assembling other art into a single cohesive piece. The film director doesn’t design the sets or give the performances or do the makeup, but they place an authorial stamp on the production by selecting what will and will not end up in the frame.

Oh yeah I can just remember all those famous renowned collages that everyone associates as art.

A director does a hell of a lot more than select what goes in a frame and then sit back and watch it come together.

Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Post by FinnLobsien »

I think there's a difference here between low-effort AI slop and something made with the help of AI. I always wonder how many AI images and articles we consume without realizing they were made by AI just because a human actually spent the time on making the AI create a good output.
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