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Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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If buying ain't owning, then p****y ain't stealing.

You can say pussy on the internet

Clearly parent poster meant 'policy'. 'The policy isn't about stealing', referring of course to the Terms and Conditions being something to ignore when they cover anti-piracy but don't sell you anything.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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> All I'm saying is it's all digital on the PC side of things, and has been for ages, but we have means of maintaining access to the games we love over here, and it's one of the reasons I've gravitated to the PC for quite a while now. It all depends on where you buy your games of course; GOG will let you download DRM-free installers, but if Steam goes down, your libraries goes down with it. They have made a vague pro…

Steam for some reason gets a pass even though it normalized the use of DRM for PC games over 20 years ago.

Steam games are not required to have DRM, it's entirely up to the game developer/publisher.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

#63

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Me too. It’s coming to Linux though. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/07/gog-confirm-they-are-w...

Until then we use this: https://heroicgameslauncher.com/

https://zoom-platform.sh/

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

#64

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I can buy and own legal copies of movies and music. But I often really can’t with games.

Not staying this to be pendantic or to annoy you, but you really do know that at the bottom line, the same sort of license applies to movies and music that as of games. It is just accepted with movies, music and books that people just 'have' them. The publishers seriously know what a huge outrage there would be when they did the same to those forms of media like they did with games, but they would if they could get a…

What I really mean is a difficult to revoke license. Not dependent on a server or DRM. I realize I do not actually own copies.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Nag your representatives ad nauseam to make laws against this.

It's shown again and again and again that nagging representatives doesn't actually work.

There are more radical options involving representatives (and other figures for that matter) that could work, but those are generally frowned upon.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Yea, but there are bigger problems coming, this outage is just a temporary preview of the future. What happens to game preservation in 20 or 10 years when the authentication servers for this generation are permanently shut down? Millions of physical discs will instantly turn into e-waste.

Hasn't Microsoft had a good track record of enabling playing old generation games on new hardware?

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can buy and own legal copies of movies and music. But I often really can’t with games.

Not staying this to be pendantic or to annoy you, but you really do know that at the bottom line, the same sort of license applies to movies and music that as of games. It is just accepted with movies, music and books that people just 'have' them. The publishers seriously know what a huge outrage there would be when they did the same to those forms of media like they did with games, but they would if they could get a…

Eh?

I can still go to the store and buy some music on physical media, and (if history is any indicator) I can still play it forever until it or my playback equipment wears out.

As a practical matter: You do know that when I spin up an album at home, I simply do not care what limitations any licensing agreements may or may not apply, right? I'm going to play it anyway, and it will work when I play it -- free from outside influence.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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post #65
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's shown again and again and again that nagging representatives doesn't actually work.

There are more radical options involving representatives (and other figures for that matter) that could work, but those are generally frowned upon.

In general, two kinds of solutions to political problems exist: those that don't work, and those that are illegal. Because why would politicians want something that worked to be legal?

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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post #19
post #7

> All I'm saying is it's all digital on the PC side of things, and has been for ages, but we have means of maintaining access to the games we love over here, and it's one of the reasons I've gravitated to the PC for quite a while now. It all depends on where you buy your games of course; GOG will let you download DRM-free installers, but if Steam goes down, your libraries goes down with it. They have made a vague pro…

Steam for some reason gets a pass even though it normalized the use of DRM for PC games over 20 years ago.

It allows you to play your games offline though, so if Steam's servers go down you can still play your games. I'm not sure if that's permanent or if you need to reactivate your DRM / license every once in a while though.

Re: Xbox goes down. You can't play games you own on disc

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Until then we use this: https://heroicgameslauncher.com/

https://zoom-platform.sh/

If you have the rig already, you could also use Sunshine and Moonlight for streaming. https://moonlight-stream.org/
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