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Re: Show HN: I made a private self-destructing image hosting site in Golang

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Post by _joel »

shelldweller wrote: post #7
v5v3 wrote: post #4

>There are similar services to this one, but they are either convoluted with ads, or require sign-up, or expect you to fill out a survey or something. So you just want to offer it free? What about ongoing responsibilities if you get DMCA and take down for copyright/child porn/fake nudes and so on

Its small and I have this vps for 2 years for basically free. On the matter of dmca: the server doesn't accept large uploads, and only accepts pictures. So what will be stolen which is soooo tiny yet so important that grants legal action on a small service? Also I don't know what people are uploading (and have no way of knowing), so my consciousness is clear. AND people don't use a random site on the internet for suc…

You are being very naive, I'm afraid. You should fear the wronguns on the internet

Re: Show HN: I made a private self-destructing image hosting site in Golang

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Post by speerer »

> FAQ

> Will you store my images?

> We are running this service on a small server. We literally cannot afford to store any images. If that is what you need, there are more suitable services out there.

This does not answer the question - it doesn't say "No." or that images are permanently deleted from server on burn expiry, only that there are (currently) limits. So slightly worrying that there might be selective retention.

Re: Show HN: I made a private self-destructing image hosting site in Golang

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Post by shelldweller »

dewey wrote: post #10
shelldweller wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its small and I have this vps for 2 years for basically free. On the matter of dmca: the server doesn't accept large uploads, and only accepts pictures. So what will be stolen which is soooo tiny yet so important that grants legal action on a small service? Also I don't know what people are uploading (and have no way of knowing), so my consciousness is clear. AND people don't use a random site on the internet for suc…

I mean that in the nicest way possible, but you do not have the knowledge to operate such a website if that's the questions you are asking.

well it was really fun coding it (no ia btw) so I do wanna keep it up. How do you suggest I protect the service from abuse? File size limit? usage count limit? some kind of OCR that filters bad content and bans users... I dont mind extending the service...

Re: Show HN: I made a private self-destructing image hosting site in Golang

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Post by pjc50 »

shelldweller wrote: post #7
v5v3 wrote: post #4

>There are similar services to this one, but they are either convoluted with ads, or require sign-up, or expect you to fill out a survey or something. So you just want to offer it free? What about ongoing responsibilities if you get DMCA and take down for copyright/child porn/fake nudes and so on

Its small and I have this vps for 2 years for basically free. On the matter of dmca: the server doesn't accept large uploads, and only accepts pictures. So what will be stolen which is soooo tiny yet so important that grants legal action on a small service? Also I don't know what people are uploading (and have no way of knowing), so my consciousness is clear. AND people don't use a random site on the internet for suc…

> don't know what people are uploading (and have no way of knowing)

Hosting CSAM is a strict liability offense in many jurisdictions.

Re: Show HN: I made a private self-destructing image hosting site in Golang

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Post by sajithdilshan »

shelldweller wrote: post #7
v5v3 wrote: post #4

>There are similar services to this one, but they are either convoluted with ads, or require sign-up, or expect you to fill out a survey or something. So you just want to offer it free? What about ongoing responsibilities if you get DMCA and take down for copyright/child porn/fake nudes and so on

Its small and I have this vps for 2 years for basically free. On the matter of dmca: the server doesn't accept large uploads, and only accepts pictures. So what will be stolen which is soooo tiny yet so important that grants legal action on a small service? Also I don't know what people are uploading (and have no way of knowing), so my consciousness is clear. AND people don't use a random site on the internet for suc…

If someone uploads child porn, you could be liable for hosting child porn. Ignorance and clear consciousness would not equate to innocence.

Re: Show HN: I made a private self-destructing image hosting site in Golang

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Post by jeroenhd »

shelldweller wrote: post #7
v5v3 wrote: post #4

>There are similar services to this one, but they are either convoluted with ads, or require sign-up, or expect you to fill out a survey or something. So you just want to offer it free? What about ongoing responsibilities if you get DMCA and take down for copyright/child porn/fake nudes and so on

Its small and I have this vps for 2 years for basically free. On the matter of dmca: the server doesn't accept large uploads, and only accepts pictures. So what will be stolen which is soooo tiny yet so important that grants legal action on a small service? Also I don't know what people are uploading (and have no way of knowing), so my consciousness is clear. AND people don't use a random site on the internet for suc…

> AND people don't use a random site on the internet for such filth

Actually, they do. Small, independent image hosts are great because they don't do any sort of VPN busting or user tracking, so hitting them with a few quick images to share is just as reliable, maybe even more reliable, than dedicated image hosting options.

You should double check your local legislation, and the legislation of the country you're hosting in. There's a chance you're liable for illegal imagery, regardless of whether you put it there or not. Plus, the moment someone puts something malicious on there and the indexers find out, your domain will be reported as dangerous/phishing and become inaccessible to 99% of the internet.

Re: Show HN: I made a private self-destructing image hosting site in Golang

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Post by jerf »

shelldweller wrote: post #13
dewey wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean that in the nicest way possible, but you do not have the knowledge to operate such a website if that's the questions you are asking.

well it was really fun coding it (no ia btw) so I do wanna keep it up. How do you suggest I protect the service from abuse? File size limit? usage count limit? some kind of OCR that filters bad content and bans users... I dont mind extending the service...

Ask yourself the question "which of those things prevents me from going to jail for hosting CSAM" and the answer becomes pretty obvious.

I fear you are mentally modeling law enforcement as rational people who will just accept any explanation you make, and that model does not correspond to reality.

The other thing you may not realize is that the bad guys aren't just isolated guys in their basement who occasionally poke their heads out and maybe compromise a site every so often. There is a pipeline that operates with commercial efficiency, in all senses of the term, including that they are getting paid. I've seen it more directly with link forwarders; there are people actively and constantly seeking out new link forwarders and exploiting them to send spam. I've seen people put them up as a "hobby learning" project and within single-digit hours they're being used in spamming campaigns. You couldn't have escaped this pipeline's notice no matter what you did but with it being on HN you're certainly going to end up on their radar. By this time tomorrow, best case, maybe in a week, if you look at what is actually being stored on your site you better bring the eyebleach.

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