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Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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I don't think driving around the country is the main selling point of a car, at least not around here. Huge commutes by car are not a usual thing in my environment, au contrary, I know companies who actively push against that.

If I have a car and I cannot do a weekend trip with it, why did I spend the money?

EVs are fine for weekend trips, you just have to spend a little more time taking breaks.

Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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> it's not very difficult to put some cables in the ground and install a big pre built metal box :) But increasingly it's becoming a problem that those cables have nowhere to run to as the grid isn't capable of serving them all. There might be excess generation but unless you have the capacity in the wires to get it where it's needed you're still stuck. Especially in dense old cuties where the grid was built when the…

>incandescent light bulbs which are an order of magnitude less efficient than contemporary LED lights.

Less efficient but still often having a better output over the frequency spectrum

Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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Has the EV charging infrastructure kept pace with the EV adoption?

In Sweden it has. When I got my EV 4 years ago, the list of public EV charging locations was about the same as the amount of petrol stations, now its 3-4x as many. And as others have mentioned, having a wall charger of your own is of course the easiest and cheapest, but fearing long distance travels with EVs in Europe is not a thing, I think.

Try driving 1300km in a day… When I was a kid that's how our family vacations started.

Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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Are charging stations subsidized? That could be a good excuse to add regulations. I've heard the subsidies are the reason why there's so many shitty charging stations. People build them, collect the subsidies, and never actually care about running it well. A silver lining is at least the space is reserved once we decide to get serious about fixing this as a society.

Charging stations just need to function like regular gas stations. Prices need to be made available online and prominently displayed at the entrance of the station. They shouldn't allow cheaper prices for subscriptions or even blocking any access without one.

Gas stations do have cheaper prices for subscriptions often.

Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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In Sweden it has. When I got my EV 4 years ago, the list of public EV charging locations was about the same as the amount of petrol stations, now its 3-4x as many. And as others have mentioned, having a wall charger of your own is of course the easiest and cheapest, but fearing long distance travels with EVs in Europe is not a thing, I think.

Try driving 1300km in a day… When I was a kid that's how our family vacations started.

Bear in mind relatively few people globally did that.

We're all special, each in our own unique way.

Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Sweden it has. When I got my EV 4 years ago, the list of public EV charging locations was about the same as the amount of petrol stations, now its 3-4x as many. And as others have mentioned, having a wall charger of your own is of course the easiest and cheapest, but fearing long distance travels with EVs in Europe is not a thing, I think.

Try driving 1300km in a day… When I was a kid that's how our family vacations started.

A decent EV will let you do 300km at highway speed. Starting at 100% at home, that's 4 times a 45 minutes break every 2.5 hours, which is a good idea anyway.

Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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Data set of one: yes I would. I despise the stink of fumes. And generally, I see zero advantages of gas over EV - also the other way around - a car is a car, costs some, takes you from A to B, unless it's some hobby (which is not this discussion).

some sure would, but do you seriously think 97% of private buyers would rather pay 30000 EUR extra (or double the retail price) for those few BEV advantages? I really doubt that, these sales are all just tax policy and nothing to do with BEV benefits zero ICE advantages? 1. lower price (if gov doesn't destroy market with taxes/benefits) 2. much bigger range 3. you can refill the tank in few minutes without any planni…

ICE arguments: 1. debatable, today it's definitely not (I don't discuss imaginary situations). 2. I don't care, I don't drive thousand km. 3. and when I do, I do highway stops anyway, where the quick charger easily catches up. 4. "should" - again imaginary argument, I'll skip. 5. My actual electric costs are exactly half than gas previously (also, fast charging can happen in garages/parking spots). EV arguments: 1. again I don't care, racing is for kids. 2. inside they're both quiet. 3. indeed in two years no engine issues yet, but the car being new surely helped.

So, like I said: to me a car is just a car. But no stink and less cost so far.

Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are charging stations subsidized? That could be a good excuse to add regulations. I've heard the subsidies are the reason why there's so many shitty charging stations. People build them, collect the subsidies, and never actually care about running it well. A silver lining is at least the space is reserved once we decide to get serious about fixing this as a society.

Charging stations just need to function like regular gas stations. Prices need to be made available online and prominently displayed at the entrance of the station. They shouldn't allow cheaper prices for subscriptions or even blocking any access without one.

Yes, they should function like gas stations and be regulated similarly. When I approach a gas station, I see the prices usually on large signs. If not, I always see the price I am actually paying displayed on a screen. None of these things are true for an EV charging station, which I think should be regulated.

Cheaper prices with subscriptions are not a problem at all. It's just that I should always see the final price that I will be paying per kWh before starting to charge.

On a related note, there is already a plug-and-charge system that identifies the car when it gets plugged in and is capable of charging the owner, but it almost never works. This is also something that should be mandated for larger EV adoption.

Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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The world is in a weird prisoner’s dilemma right now. US, China, to some extent India, are pumping out CO2, and deriving a short term “co2” dividend of higher growth, unencumbered by green transition cost. Europe is somewhat trying harder to transition away, partly for “green” reasons, partly for sovereignty reasons, partly because they just outsourced their industry. Europe is also potentially more affected by clima…

Plus, the US dumped the most CO2 into the atmosphere in the first place. They shat in the pool and now seem be to telling others to clean up the pool. At least we received some good entertainment content from the US in return.

Re: Denmark: EVs Make Up 97% of New Private Car Sales in July

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The world is in a weird prisoner’s dilemma right now. US, China, to some extent India, are pumping out CO2, and deriving a short term “co2” dividend of higher growth, unencumbered by green transition cost. Europe is somewhat trying harder to transition away, partly for “green” reasons, partly for sovereignty reasons, partly because they just outsourced their industry. Europe is also potentially more affected by clima…

Huh?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capit...

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