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They’ve bred more docile salmon, according to the article. Getting that DNA into wild populations would be problematic I’d imagine.
If those salmon are too docile, just give them cocaine. https://www.science.org/content/article/cocaine-pollution-gi...
Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences
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#152why don’t we just infuse tofu with all the nutrients and eat that? hell i would pay for that. high protein extra firm tofu is like 2.70/lb for me. i get about 35g protein from 8oz of that tofu. i eat salmon 2x a week but most of my diet is tofu and beans/lentils for protein. i think it would be far ecologically and financially better to have tofu enhanced, so it meets nutritional needs at low cost. and i personally f…
Because it’s not very tasty? Also hoper processed foods “infused” with nutrients don’t sound very appealing.. Most people (in western countries at least) don’t really optimize their food in take this way or want to maximize the amount of protein per $
animal ag is a huge climate factor there plus we destroy ecosystems to murder the ocean floor.
ultimately i don’t eat meat bc of the climat aspect (and it’s better for my health i want to live long) but since people don’t care i have zero problems with private jets or driving a F350 or sports car that gets 8mpg
if people won’t do what’s right they deserve to deal with the consequences, and i’m not gonna shed a single tear because it isn’t my problem. i’ll just move somewhere nicer (SF is amazing, and during a fire i’ll just fly somewhere else)
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it not possible to build a floating farm in international waters?
The point is that a pen far away from the land might not be very practical/much more expensive to take care of
Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences
#154Would not feed it to my worst enemy.
Comes down to finances ultimately? If can afford wild then get wild, otherwise farmed is cheaper. No different to farmed animals or non organic crops. All three are maximised for growth rate and revenue
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Technically it works. Superior Fresh, as in the linked article, has a viable system. The challenge is that in the beginning it is hard to reach a scale that works economically. Added to that, in Norway it is challenging to grow leafy greens in greenhouses in the winter, compared to the latitude where Superior Fresh is located. It can be done, but is energy intensive. We ran a fully indoor pilot facility for five year…
The article does not mention land-based fish farms but instead the "egg", a more enclosed pen that is underwater but estimate that it is 10 times the cost of a pen. How would a land-based fish farm would compare economically to those innovative underwater sea pens in your seemingly educated opinion ?
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One possible outcome of that is the extinction of wild salmon.
And, another could be to increase the populations of wild salmon Dumber here is a feature, not a bug. The dumber the farmed escaped salmons are, the better. Imagine 10 wild salmons swimming up the river to reproduce, 8 of then are devoured by bears. Only Rick and Jenny survive. Now imagine the same salmons swimming up the river to reproduce, but joined by 40 farmed sterile salmons. And 8 of them are devoured by bears…
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#157I am surprised by the statement "Today, salmon sushi is a staple of Japanese cuisine" While in Japan a few years ago, I found no salmon on the menu in sushi places. When inquiring why, we were told that salmon is not that good, and that is more a food for kids than adults. Did it change or are we just one data point?
Salmon is not a "traditional" sushi ingredient because, until the introduction of flash-freezing, it couldn't be eaten raw due to the risk of parasites. That changed in the 80s or so, I think.
Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences
#158why don’t we just infuse tofu with all the nutrients and eat that? hell i would pay for that. high protein extra firm tofu is like 2.70/lb for me. i get about 35g protein from 8oz of that tofu. i eat salmon 2x a week but most of my diet is tofu and beans/lentils for protein. i think it would be far ecologically and financially better to have tofu enhanced, so it meets nutritional needs at low cost. and i personally f…
Because it’s not very tasty? Also hoper processed foods “infused” with nutrients don’t sound very appealing.. Most people (in western countries at least) don’t really optimize their food in take this way or want to maximize the amount of protein per $
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#159It's encouraging that even the powerful lobbyists in Norway are discussing the effects their field has in the environment: > Krister Hoaas from the industry lobby group says that Norway is pursuing sustainable growth. >"We have to have growth within the limits that nature can cope with in a good way, and that would imply introduction of a lot of different production methods," Hoaas says. I like to see how much more n…
Corpo speak globally is a lot closer to the opposite of what you quoted. The US, Australia (gas, mining and energy companies are core examples) and for the larger part Europe (e.g., Volkswagen) effortless say everything and nothing at the same time.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
One possible outcome of that is the extinction of wild salmon.
And, another could be to increase the populations of wild salmon Dumber here is a feature, not a bug. The dumber the farmed escaped salmons are, the better. Imagine 10 wild salmons swimming up the river to reproduce, 8 of then are devoured by bears. Only Rick and Jenny survive. Now imagine the same salmons swimming up the river to reproduce, but joined by 40 farmed sterile salmons. And 8 of them are devoured by bears…
It works on screw worm flies. It will have a similar effect on wild salmon.