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Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by dgellow »

lostlogin wrote: post #89
kubb wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They spend a lot of the investors’ money on that. All the videos they put out are extremely high quality. They literally have communication experts sitting there, breaking their heads over how to influence the public opinion in the company’s favor. I guess they learned it from Elon: if people like you, they’ll just hold your stock forever, even if you don’t make much money.

> I guess they learned it from Elon: if people like you, they’ll just hold your stock forever, even if you don’t make much money. Is that the Elon lesson? I see him behave terribly and suffer little consequence. Much like his political buddies.

Yeah, I think it’s backward, people like Elon because they know hi will boost their stock. Not the other way around

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by kunai »

chneu wrote: post #57
efnx wrote: post #26

Is it normal for a company this big to make a public blog post like this with almost no introduction to what they’re on about? I would expect them to start out with something like Apple is suing us for yada yada yada, but instead it reads like the diary of a hurt teenager.

This reads like a mypillow CEO type post. Its insane this is coming from a company with as much scope as openai. Scope may not be the right word.

This should tell you how unserious these "companies" are when they consider themselves the grand harbinger of the one and true "AGI" because their frontier models were able to solve (with great assistance) some sort of conjecture that was never taken seriously in the mathematical world but somehow is significant now because ???

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by kajman »

wilg wrote: post #99

Glad to see everyone dispassionately awaiting the adjudication of this dispute in the official venue!

I'm glad I don't have any ~~bookie~~ prediction app accounts, because I'd now be willing to put money on an incoming settlement.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by cubefox »

chneu wrote: post #57
efnx wrote: post #26

Is it normal for a company this big to make a public blog post like this with almost no introduction to what they’re on about? I would expect them to start out with something like Apple is suing us for yada yada yada, but instead it reads like the diary of a hurt teenager.

This reads like a mypillow CEO type post. Its insane this is coming from a company with as much scope as openai. Scope may not be the right word.

I find it refreshing that they are skipping the typical hedged corporate speak.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by trollbridge »

jzl wrote: post #14
prmoustache wrote: post #5

When I look at the imessage conversation, one thing strikes me: that guy looks to be using the same icloud account he used when working for Apple with OpenAI. Is he using his own personal account? Why do both Apple and OpenAI allow that in the first place, this look so amateur. I would have assumed each company would have opened a different account for him and locked him when leaving. Is it standard practice at both…

I've heard multiple times directly from Apple employees that there is no way to login to iCloud on your work machine using a company-controlled account. Many people create new Apple ID's which they only use while working there, but others just use their personal iCloud accounts. You are, of course, not supposed to store company data in iCloud. But thanks to Apple's own efforts, it's difficult to use a Mac without bei…

Yes, that's correct - an Apple account is tied to a person. A person can have multiple Apple accounts, if they wish. But there is no such thing as an organizationally controlled Apple account.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by fingerlocks »

jzl wrote: post #14
prmoustache wrote: post #5

When I look at the imessage conversation, one thing strikes me: that guy looks to be using the same icloud account he used when working for Apple with OpenAI. Is he using his own personal account? Why do both Apple and OpenAI allow that in the first place, this look so amateur. I would have assumed each company would have opened a different account for him and locked him when leaving. Is it standard practice at both…

I've heard multiple times directly from Apple employees that there is no way to login to iCloud on your work machine using a company-controlled account. Many people create new Apple ID's which they only use while working there, but others just use their personal iCloud accounts. You are, of course, not supposed to store company data in iCloud. But thanks to Apple's own efforts, it's difficult to use a Mac without bei…

You can log into your personal account and have iCloud file sync disabled. I mean what does that prevent that you couldnt do by some other means? I could also just use a browser to drag and drop anything to my personal google drive. Or use a usb stick.

I don’t understand people that create separate Apple accounts for work.

I’ve always used my personal account on corp laptops, including MFAANG. It’s awesome being able to use side car on my personal machines, hand-off on my AirPods, or screen mirroring to my Apple TV during conference calls. What are you gaining from isolating your account? Why even bother making a fake account at all?

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by matwood »

vednig wrote: post #107

What I don't understand that if two companies are in legal battle, can they discuss the case and try to influence public swing by doing a blog post or sharing evidence that is not verified by anyone other than the party sharing them. OpenAI, even after raising this much capital, had never anticipated that something like this could happen yet keeps digging it's own grave. At this point all that's left is for them to k…

> OpenAI, even after raising this much capital, had never anticipated that something like this could happen yet keeps digging it's own grave.

Hubris.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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Post by matwood »

cubefox wrote: post #114
chneu wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reads like a mypillow CEO type post. Its insane this is coming from a company with as much scope as openai. Scope may not be the right word.

I find it refreshing that they are skipping the typical hedged corporate speak.

Straight to unhinged speak is definitely refreshing /s
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