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Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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To me, this looks like OpenAI is terrified and tries to come out ahead of the public opinion to control the narrative. Such a shit company.

They built their whole business model on stolen data and act surprised when another company has zero trust in them.

Based on their track record this lawsuit is not unexpected at all.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#12
Corporate posting in the weeks immediately surrounding a legal case or ruling impacting tech companies is definitely my favorite brand of written text. Despite not paying full attention to EU legislation, I get reliably notified by Google about every tiny bit of antitrust from them posting a "Google brings millions into the EU's [field they are getting hit with antitrust in] ecosystem" vagueblog about it.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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post #4

I can't see a judge looking kindly on this being published prior to trial. It's in court already, fight it there. Even if you win public opinion with your point of view you can still lose in court.

Does US law prevent (or frown upon) defendant from publicly publishing evidence, even when the plaintiff publicly published the accusation and their evidence first? If so, how is the defendant supposed to protect their public reputation when a lawsuit is ongoing for years? Or maybe I’m missing your point on what wouldn’t be looked upon kindly?

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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When I look at the imessage conversation, one thing strikes me: that guy looks to be using the same icloud account he used when working for Apple with OpenAI. Is he using his own personal account? Why do both Apple and OpenAI allow that in the first place, this look so amateur. I would have assumed each company would have opened a different account for him and locked him when leaving. Is it standard practice at both…

I've heard multiple times directly from Apple employees that there is no way to login to iCloud on your work machine using a company-controlled account. Many people create new Apple ID's which they only use while working there, but others just use their personal iCloud accounts. You are, of course, not supposed to store company data in iCloud. But thanks to Apple's own efforts, it's difficult to use a Mac without being logged into iCloud (for example if you want to use the App store), and some data can easily spill into the iCloud account.

If accurate, it is of course patently absurd that Apple has left this an unsolved problem.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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When I look at the imessage conversation, one thing strikes me: that guy looks to be using the same icloud account he used when working for Apple with OpenAI. Is he using his own personal account? Why do both Apple and OpenAI allow that in the first place, this look so amateur. I would have assumed each company would have opened a different account for him and locked him when leaving. Is it standard practice at both…

>Is it standard practice at both Apple and OpenAI for employees to use their personal icloud account for work?

Yes.

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

#16

When I look at the imessage conversation, one thing strikes me: that guy looks to be using the same icloud account he used when working for Apple with OpenAI. Is he using his own personal account? Why do both Apple and OpenAI allow that in the first place, this look so amateur. I would have assumed each company would have opened a different account for him and locked him when leaving. Is it standard practice at both…

Somewhat relevant from yesterday.

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/08/03/apple-icloud-sharing-ex...

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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post #13
post #4

I can't see a judge looking kindly on this being published prior to trial. It's in court already, fight it there. Even if you win public opinion with your point of view you can still lose in court.

Does US law prevent (or frown upon) defendant from publicly publishing evidence, even when the plaintiff publicly published the accusation and their evidence first? If so, how is the defendant supposed to protect their public reputation when a lawsuit is ongoing for years? Or maybe I’m missing your point on what wouldn’t be looked upon kindly?

Two wrongs don't make a right, even if the plaintiff is playing dirty it doesn't give you the right to join in.

Assuming the exhibits aren't sealed they're publicly available as soon as they're entered by the court during trial.

If they're sealed there's probably a good reason they shouldn't be published until the trial is over (or ever in some cases)

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have never worked at a place where they gave us corporate Apple accounts. We’ve always been asked to use our personal Apple account to install apps used for work.

Whereas I never worked in places where IT would not see that as a security violation.

Same here

Re: Apple is getting this wrong

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post #11

To me, this looks like OpenAI is terrified and tries to come out ahead of the public opinion to control the narrative. Such a shit company. They built their whole business model on stolen data and act surprised when another company has zero trust in them. Based on their track record this lawsuit is not unexpected at all.

Yeah, based on their track record (I mean, even their name is a bad joke at this point) I'm not inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. Turns out there's downsides to conducting yourself with little integrity.
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