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All your money and retirement funds are safe; I’m too dumb to work at JaneStreet; every time I see OCAML I feel less than and confused.
> And because Bonsai is written in OCaml, it becomes possible to use the same language and types on both the backend and frontend. Finally! I was waiting for this to become possible!
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Why did you feel the need to post this same comment multiple times? Seems a bit suspect itself!
I know some long term ocaml users and i can tell you that there is stuff boiling under the hood. Many are very much NOT HAPPY with JS and what they did.
> And because Bonsai is written in OCaml, it becomes possible to use the same language and types on both the backend and frontend. Finally! I was waiting for this to become possible!
A really great place to reach for this is Elixir/Phoenix now that the set theoretic type system is in place with LiveView. I have been doing some pretty large/complex codebases gradually working towards fully integrating working this way for the past 5 years and it has been great.
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Isn't that like saying the Internet is only written in English if you strip out all the non-English. All C-style languages are fully cross compatible if you only use semicolons. I can't write Typescript into a browser without cross-compilation and "stripping out types" involves parsing and manipulating code. That's a different language.
No. 98% of typescript specific syntax can be replaced with U+0020 SPACE to yield runnable JavaScript. The runtime semantics of the two languages are congruent. the same cannot be said for any other language im aware of.
> And because Bonsai is written in OCaml, it becomes possible to use the same language and types on both the backend and frontend. Finally! I was waiting for this to become possible!
Similar attempts include Scalajs. The general challenge becomes integrating the fractional front-end code written in your backend-language that compiles to JS with the rest of the JS ecosystem. JaneStreet have a love of writing their own stuff from scratch so it doesn't apply to them but it might to you. Hence most people end up with frontend-as-backend rather than backend-as-frontend.
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KotlinJs and ClojureJs too. You always end up having to write wrappers or dealing with problems that would just work if you just used normal js/ts.
Doesn't apply as much to Clojurescript due to it being dynamically typed and its flexibility. Sure, you often write a wrapper, but it's more of an abstraction and a good practice, not a necessity in cljs.
hmm ok nope
> And because Bonsai is written in OCaml, it becomes possible to use the same language and types on both the backend and frontend. Finally! I was waiting for this to become possible!
There's also Fable for F# but I believe this commenter is being sarcastic. Javascript is a common backend language.