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Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/st-mary... tl;dr After 20 years of legal battles abandoned factory containing tanks of rotting fish in St Mary’s NL is getting cleaned up, paid for by provincial taxpayers.

After 20 years this hasn't completely rotted and scentless? I need to read the article.

This is not rot, but digestion. The digestive enzymes of the fish keep breaking down amino acids, producing the characteristic smell. The salt prevents most microorganisms from growing.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Petition to restore “aforestated” to common parlance.

If "aforementioned" is a word, "aforestated" is a word.

Being a valid word or phrase doesn’t mean people understand what it means.

Like “common parlance”, for example ;]

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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What's out there?

More environment

The only winning move is to pay for an academic lab to crank out enough papers that the government can agree with your lobbyists and declare your preferred dumping ground "not the environment" while retaining plausible deniability.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Isn't the ocean filled with salt and already knows how to biologically degrade fish? I sort of think that you could deposit this at sea somehow, just need to spread it out sufficiently. I am sure I am overlooking something that would lead to an unintended ecological disaster.

The hang up seems to be that the ocean hasn't obtained the proper permits to be a permissable facility to hand that sort of waste.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Even in 1970 that could not have made sense to anybody with a brain. They certainly knew enough about explosives to know that the kind of blast required to reliably vaporize an entire whale carcass would be considerably larger than anything they were going to do on a public beach. That whole event was just a couple dudes who thought it would be hilarious and insufficient supervision by adults. Diluting salty rotting…

Transporting forty-five tons of this stinking liquid far enough offshore won't be cheap.

Why not? That's only one big truckload. Oceangoing ships capable of hauling such a small load are easy to come by.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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The real story here is how a corporation can just pack up and leave it's mess for the government to clean up. With public money.

Recently in my city they discovered that a laundromat had polluted the ground water. The owners are long gone. Unfortunately chemicals are forever. The municipality tried to send the bill to the current owners but that is not real justice either.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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Can't remember where i've read that nor even if it's a real thing or not so do take the following with caution. I think Roman Empire garum (fish sauce) factories where one of, if not the first thing in known history to trigger lawmakers to set a minimum distance from factories to residential areas (something like 1 mile iirc).

Despite the fearsome smell when it’s collected together in bulk, modern garum in the form of Colatura di Alici is a genuinely magical ingredient. It’s very similar to what the Romans used, except it’s made exclusively from anchovies whereas the Romans used many varieties of fish to make garum. I use it often in pasta dishes especially, but it’s a versatile ingredient for adding umami in general. It’s similar to ferme…

Asian fish sauce is apparently a good replacement in a pinch

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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I grew up in a seaside port and fishing community. 1st thing, what landlubbers think is stinky is not operative here, your thoughts are moo, like the opinion of a sea cow.

The seacoast smells like rotten fish all the time, it's called low tide. The most vibrant sea biomes are shallow coastal waters. The capacity of the North Atlantic, rich with oxygen, to handle fish parts is basically limitless. Hell, you can probably sell this stuff to lobster- and shellfish- men. The quantity here is one whale carcass (yes, that's a mammal, but you get the idea) and whale carcasses happen all the time.

Dump it in the Bay of Fundy, one tide will get rid of all of it. Worrying about the environmental impact of dead fish is like worrying that dumping manure on a field will leave it fallow.

What you are really smelling here is a govt funding boondoggle.

Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed

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There's a farmers market here in Zurich where some Italians drive up and sell Italian products like cheeses, sausages, etc. but one thing I buy from them I've never seen anywhere else - they are rotten salted anchovies packed with peppercorns. Stink super bad and are falling apart but when you're making a sauce you drop one in and the anchovy dissolves and delivers tons of umami - glutamates - and you no longer smell…

Salt-cured anchovies. They're not rotten at all—they're spectacular! They're perfect on pizza, with fresh tomatoes, and in countless other dishes, either rinsed straight from the jar or melted into a sauce while cooking. Where I live (a small seaside town), everyone makes their own jars of salt-cured anchovies. They are traditionally sealed with a loose lid consisting of a slate disc with a stone or other weight on t…

>(The way you describe yours—as extremely smelly and falling apart—doesn't really suggest they're high quality. Normally, a properly cured anchovy should remain almost completely intact, so you can remove the tail and backbone and end up with two whole fillets. The peppercorns are a bit unusual as well.)

Being a consumer of jarred anchovies available in Australia(likely not the best quality)… I’ve never once gotten a whole fillet out intact!!

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