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Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Yes. Using forced prison labor is using slave labor.

Are the prisoners given no choice? I’m okay with it either way - as long as prison time isn’t unjust.

At what point is it forced/not forced to you?

This was related to an Arizona Correctional Industries prison labor contract. In Arizona, labor is mandatory. They either work in these corporate-tied programs or they have to work some other kind of job at the prison. Is that really a choice?

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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They fired 8 people that were in response roles, not preventative.

So.... Exactly the people they need right now?

Yes, it's what they need right now. No it would not have prevented anything, as the comment I was responding to implied.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Fascism always collapses, the question is only how much will remain by the time that occurs.

What definition of fascism are you using? Is China fascist?

> What definition of fascism are you using?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

> Is China fascist?

What a strange and completely irrelevant question.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Fascism always collapses, the question is only how much will remain by the time that occurs.

And whether or not what replaces it is any better. Historically speaking, widespread democracy is still a recent development.

That's always an open question. Fascism does frequently collapse into other authoritarian regimes, too. But fascism itself will always fail.

It is a movement motivated by the petty grievances of cowards and fools, and the same hate and violence they project outward always turns inward at the end.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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That isn't for restaurants.

Yes it is > For non-prepacked foods – such as those sold in restaurants, cafés or deli counters – allergen information must be provided.

The linked page is for packaging, which are unique to the EU.

The US has it's own allergen labeling guidelines, which seem similar, but I'm not going to 1:1 check. For restaurants it's mostly up to the states with the FDA providing guidance.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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> From 11 to 3 employees. Doesn't seem that outrageous outside I hope I never have you as my manager If you think a ~70% reduction in head count isn't outrageous.

I've worked along scientists a few times, many twiddling their thumbs and coasting along on the back of their PhD. No idea if this applies here, mind you, but I don't see an innate need for that many people, even if this disease has major outbreaks (let's say > 50 cases) every few years. 3 does seem a bit low, though.

> many twiddling their thumbs

Do you think some of them were wasting their time, by posting on various online forums only slightly related to their jobs?

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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I remember seeing advice, years ago, to let lettuce sit in a weak bleach solution before use. But I doubt that’s ever been followed by many people. Current advice (at least at home) seems to be to rinse lettuce to remove dirt ( https://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheet/safe-handling-of-lettuce-... ). Apparently most health problems from lettuce are on the surface and not particularly hard to get off.

Which wouldn’t help in this case. It seems like it is time to irradiate produce.

Or just, you know, grow it in a clean manner, and not turn it into an ultra processed food?

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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Are the prisoners given no choice? I’m okay with it either way - as long as prison time isn’t unjust.

At what point is it forced/not forced to you? This was related to an Arizona Correctional Industries prison labor contract. In Arizona, labor is mandatory. They either work in these corporate-tied programs or they have to work some other kind of job at the prison. Is that really a choice?

How much choice do you have? I know I don't have much. Either work or go without health care, shelter, and food. All I get to do is choose the job. Sounds like they do too.

Re: Taylor Farms has rewritten its cyclospora statement four times in sixteen days

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> The CDC Has a Cyclospora Lab. DOGE Downsized It Last Year [1] [1] https://www.wired.com/story/cdc-cyclospora-lab-doge-downsize...

DOGE will be seen by historians as the cause of so many crisis…

It is the government equivalent of El Muskito buying Twitter and then wantonly disabling components with the assumption they do nothing.
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