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Why does Mail app contact iCloud when sending a non-iCloud email?
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Re: Why does Mail app contact iCloud when sending a non-iCloud email?
#12I assume for the same reason the OS pings Cupertino when you run a binary - surveillance, masquerading as protection.
Yes, the safe assumption is that Apple reads all your mail. Not that any other provider is better---most are probably worse.
For a company who hangs their hat on privacy, it is a dang shame that their native mail client can't support PGP/GnuPG. I mean it'll do S/MIME, but who uses that regularly.
Re: Why does Mail app contact iCloud when sending a non-iCloud email?
#13Probably Handoff and cross-device application state syncing.
Most likely answer so far. While writing an email you can take it over between iPhone, iPad and Mac. Once you hit send it probably gives a “you can stop Handoff now” signal.
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#15One Apple Mail feature nobody here has commented on was called Piano Mover internally. I don’t know the public marketing name. It lets attachments over 10MB in emails be replaced with iCloud hosted file references.
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#16Isn't this Private Relay masking your IP?
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102602
The article calls out Safari but my understanding is it applies to email also.
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#17Why’s this post below an older less popular one? https://i.ibb.co/jnpcFJz/IMG-0549.jpg
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#18Fun activity: install glasswire on windows for a day or 2, set it to prompt you before any connection is allowed, and watch as about 500 different windows components attempt connections with Microsoft as a result of any and every action. And how many onedrive exes randomly fire off throughout the day despite having never once used it. And how onedrive changes its version number every day when it realizes it can’t con…
OneDrive is the most annoying of all the apps I never use that was installed alongside an app that I do use. Thankfully, I have now blocked it from notifying me that it can no longer connect to the mother ship.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Figure they do it for three-letter agencies who’re not in my threat model, otherwise I’d have to spend much time busying with… Whonix? Tails? Qubes? And lose/reimplement my Universal Clipboard and AirDrop and iMessage… (so yeah I deserve consequences of my love of convenience) Though the more Apple fails to choose the good soap the more I should worry https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49074631
I don't think you have to look far nor hard for a mail-client that doesn't communicate with the developer because you send an email...
Universal Clipboard, AirDrop and iMessage - is that really the value add of apple? iMessage... do we really want to encourage that behavior?
Re: Why does Mail app contact iCloud when sending a non-iCloud email?
#20Isn't this Private Relay masking your IP? https://support.apple.com/en-us/102602 The article calls out Safari but my understanding is it applies to email also.
No, I don't use Private Relay or subscribe to iCloud+