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Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

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Re: Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

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Ecosia and Qwant have just started collaborating on EUSP (European Search Perspective)[1] This could easily yield very interesting (i.e. "not just another bing proxy") results once it starts gaining traction. I use DuckDuckGo at the moment, only because Startpage started making themselves impossible to use when they started aggressively blocking access via VPNs. As other people have already said,see `noai.duckduckgo.…

Leta told me it was shutting down months ago. leta.mullvad.net doesn't exist anymore. I'm sad, because it was a great search engine I could trust.

Re: Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's when the search engine starts answering with links "tailored" by your usage, effectively trapping you into a bubble. But I also never heard the "bubbling" verb.

Exactly. DuckDuckGo used to advertise themselves as a way to escape Google's search bubble[0] [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20140720050529/http://dontbubble...

And that's exactly why I moved. And now they broke that trust.

Re: Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

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Non-AI Google Search. https://www.google.com/search?q=%s&udm=14

It's the bubble I have the most issue with. Second-guessing is annoying. This month is getting worst with unasked for auto-correct that, of course, is wrong and end up not allowing me to search exactly what I want because DDG supposedly "know better". It does not.

Re: Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

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post #47

We need it - I’d use 3 search engines. It’s not like MMOs or social media where 1 winner takes all. I think people want more search options, cloud, email, and so-on. I once tried to index the web with local Mistral 7b. Here’s what I did: 1. Copy/pasted an English dictionary and removed the definitions, so I just had an Array of about 500k words. 2. Wrote a simple loop to iterate over the words, with the instruction t…

You could just pull tls cert registrations CT logs, way easier. Or https://crt.sh

502 - Bad Gateway

Another cool thing about Mistral 7b is it runs offline, and I don't need to download any massive URL list that may or may not be current.

It does the work of finding URLs at runtime, offline (until it verifies the URL exists).

Re: Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

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Ecosia and Qwant have just started collaborating on EUSP (European Search Perspective)[1] This could easily yield very interesting (i.e. "not just another bing proxy") results once it starts gaining traction. I use DuckDuckGo at the moment, only because Startpage started making themselves impossible to use when they started aggressively blocking access via VPNs. As other people have already said,see `noai.duckduckgo.…

Leta told me it was shutting down months ago. leta.mullvad.net doesn't exist anymore. I'm sad, because it was a great search engine I could trust.

Oh, you're right https://mullvad.net/en/blog/shutting-down-our-search-proxy-l...

That's so sad. :(

Re: Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

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post #37

Why not simply go to DDG settings and disable AI if you dislike it ? (There they will also tell you about https://noai.duckduckgo.com )

You're reading that incorrectly. I disapprove of the bubble effect.

I specified I'm not interested in chabot because I'm looking for a search engine and some people tend to conflate the two. I prefer first hand information, hopefully filtered for spam and slop but not "tailored" by a bubble that is more often mistaken than not.

Re: Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

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post #57

I'm a bit of a privacy nerd, but even so it still took me a while to convince myself it was worth paying for a search engine. Ever since getting over that, however, I've been extremely happy with Kagi. Couldn't recommend it more.

Paying for Kagi Ultimate. Never going back to "free" search engines.

Re: Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

#60

If you don't mind paying and someone else having control over your search experience, Kagi is an option. Urkey (sp?) is another new alternative. If you just want a free search engine, Brave is probably the best index. Bonus points to Marginalia for finding the obscure things Brave doesn't surface. But if you want to go down the rabbit hole, it's easy to build your own metasearch engine and search several engines at o…

> Urkey (sp?) is another new alternative.

What's the URL?

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