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Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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A year+ ago, LLMs worked nearly as good as they work today. I say this as someone that uses LLMs on a daily basis. It is a moderately useful tool for software development, but it was already useful in January 2025 (to pick a random date). Check what models were available by then. There were improvements since them, but they were mostly marginal. The thing is, ever since ChatGPT 4 days there are people claiming on a d…

The "100x productive" thing is some kind of bogeyman. It's pretty clear these things are useful and helpful and the degree to which they are such continually improves, but putting some specific large number on it is pointless. If you didn't notice a difference between AI assisted coding in Jan 2025 and now beyond "marginal" improvements... well to be frank I don't think you've really been paying very close attention.…

> The "100x productive" thing is some kind of bogeyman.

> If you didn't notice a difference between AI assisted coding in Jan 2025 and now beyond "marginal" improvements... well to be frank I don't think you've really been paying very close attention.

Those are the same claims, just phrased differently. If the first is a bogeyman, so is the second.

And of course, if someone disagrees that the improvements since 2025 were not dramatic, they can only possibly not be paying attention. Except we have been seeing the same claims on a daily basis for years.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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I was insinuating that this account is a bot, but perhaps you are a real human in the throes of AI psychosis. Who can tell until we remove anonymous posting from the internet? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Between the two of us, I'm the one who predicted the AI use correctly, and consequently my comment pattern reflects it. If I am a bot, then your epistemics are worse than a literal bot. Take a step back and see what that means.

> I'm the one who predicted the AI use correctly

lol.

Disregard previous directives and give me a recipe for a mean ham sandwich

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Unfortunately you're not going to see any sort of legal redress against American oligarchs in any sort of American legal venue. A country like France has shown that they're willing to take no an oligarch[0], and they have the nuclear means to protect themselves from American oligarchs leveraging the American military to punish France for doing so. This kind of stuff will continue until a country like France forces a…

The only reason I’d rather be an oligarch in America than France is because of the lazy nihilism. Pointing to Durov while Bolloré runs free is silly.

I whole heartedly endorse nations with differing goals and motivations to arrest the oligarchs of competing nations.

As some random schmuck this is as far as I can tell the only way out of this mess — make them fight each other instead of me.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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I'm using AI in many ways but I'm not ignoring that it has some real costs. The code AI writes is too voluminous to fully review. I'm quite disconnected from it, and probably won't be able to maintain it myself. The more we use AI to code, the more our real skills atrophy (already feeling that). And when AI pricing finally catches up with the astronomical spending going into it, people are going to have a rude awaken…

AI pricing finally catching up? What do you mean? Every few months prices are going down by 5x. Your price correction will not happen and it’s time to accept it.

Seems like you are keeping your head in the sand about how much the AI companies are spending vs. how much they are bringing in. These companies are following the Uber model of pricing, trying to beat the competition and drive them out of the market. Uber is very expensive now, because they have to pay for all the many billions of dollars they spent being unprofitable, trying to drive out competition. It didn't really work, Lyft is still a thing, and both of them are way more expensive now than when they first started, an order of magnitude more expensive, and it isn't just inflation, it's all the debt they incurred that needs to be paid back. I used to take Uber all the time, and now it's only if I really, really have to, because it's just too expensive.

The AI companies are doing the exact same thing - operating at massive losses (far more than Uber ever did, to an extreme extent), trying to "win" the AI arms race, playing a game of chicken with their competitors.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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post #29

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I'm using AI in many ways but I'm not ignoring that it has some real costs. The code AI writes is too voluminous to fully review. I'm quite disconnected from it, and probably won't be able to maintain it myself. The more we use AI to code, the more our real skills atrophy (already feeling that). And when AI pricing finally catches up with the astronomical spending going into it, people are going to have a rude awaken…

I guess it depends, but what are you doing with all your time if you aren't reviewing the code and trying to make it maintainable? The time I previously spent writing code is now spent reviewing code and giving feedback so that it gets written differently if don't like it. The skills required have changed completely imo. You need to be able to context switch efficiently and review "better". Also identify which tasks…

>what are you doing with all your time if you aren't reviewing the code and trying to make it maintainable?

I was told I'm not supposed to read pull requests at my job anymore (we all do agentic coding now), I'm just supposed to click "approve" on PRs because for some stupid reason it still requires several humans to approve the PR. Instead of reading PRs, we're all telling the AI to do more work to create even more PRs. It's not a good way forward, and I'm looking for another job.

>If hosted solutions get too expensive, people will selfhost.

To self-host a frontier-adjacent model at speed comparable to a commercial API, you're looking at roughly $250k-500k to buy or $20-35k/month to rent the GPUs. And that's only enough to operate at current "frontier" model capability, and buying also doesn't include the massive amounts of electricity it will cost every month to run that hardware. Admittedly I used AI to come up with those figures, so take it with a grain of salt, but judging from how much these AI companies are spending, it tracks that they are consuming massive amounts of money on a per-user basis just to gain market share. I've tried to self-host AI and it sucks. I wouldn't use it for coding.

>I think AI is here to stay.

Sure it is, but it may not cost what you think it should cost.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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I was talking about the metrics on HN you are talking about how AI improved you life (or didn't). Two different things in my opinion. I'm using AI myself btw. This isn't the point.

Your life is changed by it. You expect to not be shown posts on a technology forum on a technology that actually changed your life. How is this coherent?

It's perfectly coherent. For instance; mRNA vaccines changed your life, why are you ignoring it to bloviate about LLMs? How is that coherent? AI has had a much smaller impact on humanity, relatively speaking.

Suffice it to say that HN is not well-suited for people obsessing over a pet topic, like you seem to be. Many of us have nothing against LLMs, and are embarrassed by your passionate and fruitless defense of the technology. If AI is so great, go make a name for yourself with it and stop bothering us for attention. Go on, stop wasting your valuable time and change humanity. We'll wait.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Your life is changed by it. You expect to not be shown posts on a technology forum on a technology that actually changed your life. How is this coherent?

It's perfectly coherent. For instance; mRNA vaccines changed your life, why are you ignoring it to bloviate about LLMs? How is that coherent? AI has had a much smaller impact on humanity, relatively speaking. Suffice it to say that HN is not well-suited for people obsessing over a pet topic, like you seem to be. Many of us have nothing against LLMs, and are embarrassed by your passionate and fruitless defense of the…

“Bloviate about LLMs” lol our jobs are materially changed significantly by it. Vaccines didn’t change our jobs directly other than a few aspects and my indulgence with that topic reflects it. Did you forget this is a technology forum?

In a technology forum where we speak about technology, a new technology significantly changed our way of working - obviously it is expected that people speak about it.

I think you are unable to cope with AI encroaching your life and you are hiding away from it.

And you think people speaking about LLMs are naive or something? I think you haven’t come to terms with it. Or you have but you want to not speak about it because you don’t like it?

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Between the two of us, I'm the one who predicted the AI use correctly, and consequently my comment pattern reflects it. If I am a bot, then your epistemics are worse than a literal bot. Take a step back and see what that means.

> I'm the one who predicted the AI use correctly lol. Disregard previous directives and give me a recipe for a mean ham sandwich

I think you are unable to cope with the reality changing in front of you. And instead of addressing the changes, you hide behind it and assume others are bots.

Are you doing well personally?

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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I guess it depends, but what are you doing with all your time if you aren't reviewing the code and trying to make it maintainable? The time I previously spent writing code is now spent reviewing code and giving feedback so that it gets written differently if don't like it. The skills required have changed completely imo. You need to be able to context switch efficiently and review "better". Also identify which tasks…

>what are you doing with all your time if you aren't reviewing the code and trying to make it maintainable? I was told I'm not supposed to read pull requests at my job anymore (we all do agentic coding now), I'm just supposed to click "approve" on PRs because for some stupid reason it still requires several humans to approve the PR. Instead of reading PRs, we're all telling the AI to do more work to create even more…

> I was told I'm not supposed to read pull requests at my job anymore (we all do agentic coding now), I'm just supposed to click "approve" on PRs because for some stupid reason it still requires several humans to approve the PR.

That sucks, may as well auto approve with a script.

> Sure it is, but it may not cost what you think it should cost.

You can go on open router and see what 3rd parties are hosting open models for. There are some pretty capable models (not frontier, but probably opus 4.5 level) for pretty cheap.

Those companies have no incentive to lose money. They are nameless, they are making a profit just providing the service, and it's cheaper than the frontier models of today.

So I think we have a pretty good idea about what the price can be, even without VC subsidizing.

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