Why on earth are they not composting it, but instead putting in a landfill and locking it up? What a dumb idea.
Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed
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Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Instead the stinky will be spread through time. The solution to pollution is dilution, and the ocean would metabolize it away fairly quickly.
The solution to pollution is dilution was a philosophy prior to modern environmental protection laws, which were a reaction to the fact that we were absolutely destroying all kinds of ecosystems, even when we thought we were just diluting toxins down to nothing.
This stuff is barely pollution. Everything there is a natural part of the environment and biological processes. Literally the only issue here is the concentration of it. Dumping it in the ocean is an ideal course of action. Failing that it should be dumped out in the wilderness, not in bags, but just on the ground. It may have a short-term change in the local environment, but long term it's fertilizer.
The risk of dumping it in the ocean is that some asshole will see that happening and think "gosh, i should slip my barrels of hazardous toxic waste in with that dumping activity."
Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Instead the stinky will be spread through time. The solution to pollution is dilution, and the ocean would metabolize it away fairly quickly.
The solution to pollution is dilution was a philosophy prior to modern environmental protection laws, which were a reaction to the fact that we were absolutely destroying all kinds of ecosystems, even when we thought we were just diluting toxins down to nothing.
That just sounds like it's a knee jerk reaction from regulators. For decades their reaction to pollution was "yeah just dump it in the ocean", then we figured out it was bad. So now the pendulum swung the other way where we can't dump anything in the ocean, even if it's probably benign, because if it turns out to be not benign, it'll super bad on you. "You did what? Approved dumping pollutants in the ocean? Haven't you learned anything from us dumping radioactive super-mustard gas in the oceans decades ago?" Better to play it safe. After all, you're not picking up the tab.
Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed
#54Why on earth are they not composting it, but instead putting in a landfill and locking it up? What a dumb idea.
Salty.
Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed
#55Since this is just salted, fermented fish, which the scientist in the article claims he would like to taste, why does it need to be buried in plastic? Why not slowly pour it into a sewer, over the course of several months?
Sewers go places, and it is nearly a million liters of extremely concentrated stinky. If you do this, you take a single location source of stinky and smear it over a much larger set of locations that will then ALL be extremely stinky, in a way that isn’t easily cleaned with water as the fats and oils (also extremely stinky!) are of course not soluble.
So, but… where do most fish go when they die?
Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed
#56Can you die from a umami overdose?
Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Instead of "rotten" I should have probably used "fermented". They're dark brown, not dry but not in a liquid, individual anchovies that are starting to fall apart. They smell like a stronger version of fish sauce.
Why not just use colatura di alici?
If it's the salted anchovies I'm thinking of what I'm thinking of (like in the yt video in your sibling comment), salted anchovies are a lot cheaper and more versatile (the downside is that more processing is required on your end). Colatura is great in sauces, but you can use whole anchovy filets to make a gilda in addition to adding flavor to a sauce.
Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed
#58Why on earth are they not composting it, but instead putting in a landfill and locking it up? What a dumb idea.
I don't have much familiarity with composting or fish sauce production, but wouldn't the high salt content make it a bad fertilizer?
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#59Re: Decades-old fish sauce at abandoned factory in Canada finally being removed
#60Why on earth are they not composting it, but instead putting in a landfill and locking it up? What a dumb idea.
Salt... it has lots and lots of salt in it. It's been sitting for 20+ years. It isn't going to "compost" any more than it already has.