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Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

#1
More than 10 years ago I dropped Google Search because my searches were enshitified and bubble wrapped and quotes stop to matter so it became impossible to escape the bubble.

As the saying goes, it happened before and will happen again : it now the turn of DuckDuckGo to enshitify my searches by bubblification and ignoring quotes.

Also, not interested in IA chatbot, I prefer multiple sources and to cross-check the information myself, thank you.

What alternatives are you using / recommending ?

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#2
I have roughly the same path as you through default search engines over the years and recently left duckduckgo for ecosia. It's the best alternative I've found and after about a week or two it became second nature just like the ones that came before it. If I don't find what I'm looking for I may still jump over to Google (via incognito window)

p.s ecosia does have their annoying obligatory ai chat bot that attempts to answer things which i could do without but i just mostly ignore it

Re: Ask HN: What are the viable alternatives to DuckDuckGo?

#3
We need it - I’d use 3 search engines. It’s not like MMOs or social media where 1 winner takes all. I think people want more search options, cloud, email, and so-on.

I once tried to index the web with local Mistral 7b. Here’s what I did:

1. Copy/pasted an English dictionary and removed the definitions, so I just had an Array of about 500k words.

2. Wrote a simple loop to iterate over the words, with the instruction to Mistral to try to guess 10 URLs related to that word. I would typically get 2-3 sites per word.

3. When visiting a site, also check that site for links to other URLs, and summarize it with hash tags, visiting the new sites as well and recursively doing that.

4. Keep a tally of how many sites are being linked to for the page’s “rank”.

In the end you should have a massive list of objects with valid URLs ranked by how popular they are (to each other, by link), and a set of searchable hash tags for each.

I ran this for days and I never got past B, and almost every site was adult content. Most of the sites came from other sites. But it does work! Janky page crawling and ranking.

Anyway more people should take on web search, I agree. LLMs offer shortcuts.

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#9

I gladly pay for Kagi because the experience is so much better that it’s worth it to me.

Rather than make another top-level comment, adding here that Kagi is a better experience for me than Google or DDG. Not perfect, and I wish they would lean even harder into pure search (they're also developing AI features), but still an improvement over alternatives.
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