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All this ostensibly to keep teenage boys from watching Pornhub (when parental controls already exist). The real reason, of course, is to force people to connect strong real-life identifiers to online activity. Mobile first, then Windows. Then Linux is too weak to oppose on its own, and will adapt or die.
Parental controls don't exist. Not ones that actually work. That's why governments want to do something about it in the first place.
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What do you expect - the EU to centrally plan a phone OS? They are capitalist with regulations, you know, not communist. Someone has to actually make one themselves. Most of the free hardware and software alternatives are already European, like MNT, and GrapheneOS. They just don't have market share.
What do I expect? Mandating open bootloaders by law, banning device attestation and applying existing antitrust legislation. Then if they could give a few millions to some open source communities, that could be the cherry on top
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> it is virtually impossible for Europe to even begin to displace Apple or Google devices It's hard for sure but they are not even trying, the non-duopoly alternatives are run by hobbyists in their free time and just get shit on by EU bureaucrats
What do you expect - the EU to centrally plan a phone OS? They are capitalist with regulations, you know, not communist. Someone has to actually make one themselves. Most of the free hardware and software alternatives are already European, like MNT, and GrapheneOS. They just don't have market share.
GrapheneOS is Canadian.
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And approving this kind of regulation doesn't?
idk what kind of fascist you are, but a free society doesn’t stop talking about something because certain leaders don’t like it. In order to get legislation you want (say: gay rights) you have to risk legislation you don’t like, for some, that would be gay rights too…
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What's simplistic and unhelpful is falling for the narrative that infinite scroll, boobies, and algorithmic feeds are somehow more harmful than ubiquitous government surveillance of the most powerful communication tool on earth. The Internet, more or less, has been around 30+ years and the Something awful and 4chan generations are now in charge. We're not much worse off. The Internet is actually way tamer these days…
Don't know about boobies, but I would guess META/other infinite scroll products are this generation's cigarettes in terms of long term harm and we do a severe disservice to all young people that are exposed to this product. Moreover, asking parents to intervene is obviously not going to work because they, themselves, have been partially ruined by it and lack the critical thinking required to intervene and the prowess…
Everything, from “anything” to “literally nothing”, has been marched up on stage as the latest thing that’s a danger to children. All of it is true. Existing is dangerous, and that cannot be legislated away. Parents are supposed to be preparing their children for the dangers that life brings with it, not grinding down the tips of forks.
Having a healthy fear of skateboarding saved more broken bones than knee pads, so maybe parents should help their children understand that their peer isn’t as cool as they look on Instagram… or they get bombarded with it when they pass the minimum Facebook age and we’re back here in a few years raising the social media age to 35.
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What do you expect - the EU to centrally plan a phone OS? They are capitalist with regulations, you know, not communist. Someone has to actually make one themselves. Most of the free hardware and software alternatives are already European, like MNT, and GrapheneOS. They just don't have market share.
> are already European, like MNT, and GrapheneOS GrapheneOS is Canadian.
All this ostensibly to keep teenage boys from watching Pornhub (when parental controls already exist). The real reason, of course, is to force people to connect strong real-life identifiers to online activity. Mobile first, then Windows. Then Linux is too weak to oppose on its own, and will adapt or die.
> All this ostensibly to keep teenage boys from watching Pornhub (when parental controls already exist). The real reason ... Maybe I'm naive, but I think there's no deeper motivation. There are activists and politicians who really believe this is a cause worth fighting for.
Maybe you are not naive. Maybe you are correct
This "real reason for age verification" trope might be just another braindead meme or conspiracy theory
No evidence has been presented to support what these commenters are suggesting
It stands to reeason that anyone who is truly concerned about "connect[ing] real-life identifiers to online activity" would be distancing themselves from using corporate-controlled mobile operating systems like Android or iOS, as opposed to thinking, something like, "I've got a good thing going here with Android and/or iOS and age verification is going to ruin it"
- No more shell companies. - Only humans may own shares. - Public ownership registers.
Know thine enemy.
All this ostensibly to keep teenage boys from watching Pornhub (when parental controls already exist). The real reason, of course, is to force people to connect strong real-life identifiers to online activity. Mobile first, then Windows. Then Linux is too weak to oppose on its own, and will adapt or die.
Parental controls don't exist. Not ones that actually work. That's why governments want to do something about it in the first place.
Can't you just enroll your kid's devices in your home corporate and leverage MDM to force the network to call through your proxy, which denies or downgrades all ECH and then can actively filter to an allowlist or screen the material through your personal or contracted LLM?
This seems relatively solved to me.
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> We restrict certain activities and places in the real world from certain people all the time. For example, not allowing people under 18 or 21 (depending on your country) into casinos. These are not equivalent. Restricting access to a casino just requires showing an ID to a person. A few seconds later and that person has completely forgotten everything about you. They will not keep a record of your home address, etc…
Any time I've been in an age-restricted venue here in Australia they have taken a picture of me and my ID at the door.