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Don't be a meat proxy

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Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by globular-toast »

jayd16 wrote: post #68
jpnc wrote: post #2

If you create a machine for laziness you're going to get lazy people. It's only going to get worse I'm afraid. Do you guys think we're going to see a de-evolution of human beings due to technology?

All machines are for laziness.

I think you are confusing machines with motors. Many machines do things that simply are not possible without. A bicycle, for example, is not at any less work than walking, but it enables you to go faster than you can run. Menually operated sewing machines produce stitches that would be infeasible by hand.

Motorising any of those machines could be considered lazy, though.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by cryo32 »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #8

I deal with this all day long at work and it’s exhausting. People almost acting like no one has thought of it “I asked Claude what happened, and it spit out this 300 line response. Can you read it for me and see if it’s right?” What kills me is you might expect this from a busy high level manager that doesn’t really understand the technical details and they just point the AI to an error they got. They don’t know how…

Yeah have this too.

I created a spreadsheet called “slop” and add the name to the list and redirect all queries to their engineering manager. I’m not wasting my time on that shit.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by rishsriv »

This is particularly frustrating on social media, and abases what might be good ideas.

Too often, my Twitter experience now is - start reading a post with some kernel of insight - read some claudism in the post - stop reading immediately

It seems like people turn over their raw kernel of insight to an LLM to give it polish, likely in order to increase its appeal to the audience. But most of that appeal is lost amongst people that consume LLM written content regularly.

It's also likely that social media engagement does not filter for this. A majority of people are still not neck deep in LLM-talk, and cannot distinguish between LLM and human written content.

It'll probably take us another year or two to develop herd immunity against meat proxism.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by cryo32 »

jayd16 wrote: post #68
jpnc wrote: post #2

If you create a machine for laziness you're going to get lazy people. It's only going to get worse I'm afraid. Do you guys think we're going to see a de-evolution of human beings due to technology?

All machines are for laziness.

This is totally wrong.

Some machines are capability amplifiers.

Other machines are shit puking buck passing time sinks.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by kruffalon »

richrichardsson wrote: post #115
lelanthran wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Au psychosis is getting seriously outrageous at this point So... back to a currency backed by gold?

Aren't you clever knowing the periodic table symbol for gold! Actual Intelligence could grasp this was a simple keytranspose typo...

I disagree...

Actual intelligence might be[0] to know what typos (of any kind) are fun to riff off.

Maybe this didn't hit the mark for you, but it got a chuckle out of me (especially considering the last hype before AI was crypto).

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[0] I don't even try to figure that out anymore, in a few years I'll pick the definition that I think best captures my thoughts

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by eddythompson80 »

weatherlite wrote: post #59
eddythompson80 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s truly unhinged behavior that has me questioning how much longer I want to remain in the industry. You always knew that 80% of the people on any team or in any large company just didn’t care. But now you see who these people are out in the open. I had a guy with more senior title say “I love the new api and cli. Is anyone working on the docs? Because I can take a crack at them” then goes to generate 12 markdown f…

> has me questioning how much longer I want to remain in the industry The effect is less pronounced in other industries but they're gonna catch up. Might take a decade for some of them , perhaps even 20 years for the rare ones like nursing but the trend is quite clear.

Politicians too apparently. There was this gem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlYa8NV5k-U

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

deepsummer wrote: post #9

In my life, the bigger issue are people who are not asking Claude, but asking me. Because it would take 15 minutes to find out the answer myself, and 3 minutes to let Claude find it, I ask Claude. So how should I answer? Should I disclose that I used Claude to find the answer? Or should I act like I did it myself, appearing to have super-powers that I don't possess?

The problem with asking Claude (or any LLM) is that they will get things wrong much more often than a human, while sounding perfectly confident about the information. It's a recipe for disaster unless you're asking it about something where you have enough expertise to be able to sniff out the BS. So if people are asking you a question, that means they figure you're able to answer the question accurately. If you can do that with asking Claude then whatever, but the person asking you probably couldn't do the same. They would certainly get an answer, but they wouldn't be able to have confidence in its accuracy. You're providing value, even if it's not necessarily immediately obvious to you.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by throw310822 »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #118
throw310822 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This smells an awful like a post-hoc justification of why you can’t answer it yourself. If you _could_ do that and hand the information to Claude, you could also just…give the person that information directly, and avoid wasting their time and the tokens.

Uh? I don't understand, are you saying that instead of asking Claude myself I should write a question for other people to do it? Which is by the way only the initial part of the work I described?
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