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Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD »

emsign wrote: post #45
0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #22

Funny, I was told by HN commenters that worries about AI risk are just a clever marketing strategy on the part of OpenAI and friends. I wonder why they would be working so hard to push back?

Regulatory capture. They are the hyperscalers who invested and still invest heavily in hard tech, like data centers. They need regulation of "uncontrolled" AI models, so that Joe Smoe doesn't ditch his ChatGPT subscription and uses his local LLMs and agent harness setup in his home lab. Or some open weights model, or the condensed Chinese ones... it's "regulate everything else to death that is better than our enshitt…

If AI industry critics are valuable as a means of OpenAI achieving regulatory capture, why is OpenAI attacking critics using underhanded means, as in the OP?

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by gerhardi »

tokioyoyo wrote: post #75
gerhardi wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in which model prices have went down 5x on multiple occasions? Are you talking about subscription or API/Token pricing?

If you think of what you could do for $200 last year vs today, I could argue the prices went down.

Yes I agree with this - models today are better than they were a year ago. But not sure if I can "do for $1 what used to cost $25" across the board (meaning two times occurred 5x price reduction). But it's maybe not that simple to compare as there are some simple things also that just were not feasibly possible at all some time ago.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by lovich »

simianwords wrote: post #53
lovich wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49151741 > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49151732 > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49151719 Multiple comments made by this account in a timeframe I at least would personally have a hard time reading the comment I’m responding to and then and replying to this quickly, and from an account made in 2025. Kind of making the point for the people you disagree with, assumin…

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I was insinuating that this account is a bot, but perhaps you are a real human in the throes of AI psychosis.

Who can tell until we remove anonymous posting from the internet?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by dzhiurgis »

iammrpayments wrote: post #4

Probably doing something similar here. This place average post went from “look at this new javascript framework” to “I just became 100x more productive with AI” in the last 3 years

Neither was true. It is most skeptical community ever, including AI. To the point I'm convinced astroturfing is done by malicious parties.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by OccamsMirror »

woozyolliew wrote: post #9
tokioyoyo wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be cool to see HN internal stats over the last 5 years. New users, posts from different accounts and etc.

Yeah. Could be astroturfing. Could just be a surge in enthusiasm after 10 years when all we had to be excited about was a new Javascript framework. Your analysis by account age might be telling

I want to push back on this. Hacker News was way more interesting before 75% of the submissions were about AI.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

jpnc wrote: post #67
dzhiurgis wrote: post #36

Grok's unhinged mode is amazing for trolling anti-ai cooks. I've been having a blast.

Certainly money well spent and technology properly utilized. Could have learned an actual skill instead.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

userbinator wrote: post #51
dzhiurgis wrote: post #36

Grok's unhinged mode is amazing for trolling anti-ai cooks. I've been having a blast.

Had to look this up to see they really named it that, but then again, probably not surprising considering Musk's cars have a "ludicrous mode".

Yes, and others brains still runs in "pedestrian mode." Some of us prefer acceleration.

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Post by surgical_fire »

bob1029 wrote: post #23
claaams wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve noticed this too. I’ve seen a ton ai defenders and hype people here. It’s embarrassing.

It was embarrassing a year+ ago when much of this technology barely worked at all. If you did not perceive a step change in model capabilities in late 2025, it's possible you are working on problems that are just too hard or not well aligned (e.g., arts and crafts). If you are working on software and need to move the occasional mountain, it's really hard to argue with the capabilities of contemporary models and harne…

A year+ ago, LLMs worked nearly as good as they work today.

I say this as someone that uses LLMs on a daily basis. It is a moderately useful tool for software development, but it was already useful in January 2025 (to pick a random date). Check what models were available by then. There were improvements since them, but they were mostly marginal.

The thing is, ever since ChatGPT 4 days there are people claiming on a daily basis exactly what you are claiming now, and it feels pretty silly. Sometimes it's hard to not imagine the accounts breathlessly claiming 100x productivity as bots.

In other words, I presume that if you are 100x more productive now, you were a 1/100x developer before LLMs. I actually question the capabilities of anyone making claims like that.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by doix »

leptons wrote: post #29
doix wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I was very skeptical and now I've drank the kool-aid. Got multiple parallel cloud agents with independent loops making PRs and me reviewing them. AI is also reviewing PRs and sometimes even catches useful things. LLMs in 2023, from what I remember, were slightly better auto complete. It's pretty different now.

I'm using AI in many ways but I'm not ignoring that it has some real costs. The code AI writes is too voluminous to fully review. I'm quite disconnected from it, and probably won't be able to maintain it myself. The more we use AI to code, the more our real skills atrophy (already feeling that). And when AI pricing finally catches up with the astronomical spending going into it, people are going to have a rude awaken…

I guess it depends, but what are you doing with all your time if you aren't reviewing the code and trying to make it maintainable?

The time I previously spent writing code is now spent reviewing code and giving feedback so that it gets written differently if don't like it.

The skills required have changed completely imo. You need to be able to context switch efficiently and review "better". Also identify which tasks require lots of supervision of what the AI generates and which don't.

I think AI is here to stay. Open models keep the costs at a certain level. If hosted solutions get too expensive, people will selfhost. Even if models never improve beyond today, the open ones are good enough at this point to provide immense value.

Just my opinion of course.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Teever wrote: post #27
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #2

Is there a state in which this constitutes fraud?

Unfortunately you're not going to see any sort of legal redress against American oligarchs in any sort of American legal venue. A country like France has shown that they're willing to take no an oligarch[0], and they have the nuclear means to protect themselves from American oligarchs leveraging the American military to punish France for doing so. This kind of stuff will continue until a country like France forces a…

The only reason I’d rather be an oligarch in America than France is because of the lazy nihilism.

Pointing to Durov while Bolloré runs free is silly.

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