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Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

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> https://cdn.saffire.com/images.ashx?t=ig&rid=OhioStateFair&i... > "Celebrating Ohio's and America's 250th birthday" > Ohio is 223 years old You might have misread the text? I see something different in the “Celebrating Ohio and America’s 250th birthday”, which I read as celebrating: 1. Ohio overall 2. America’s 250th

Without the Oxford comma, it was the most reasonable way to read it.

You would never put an Oxford comma in a list of two items

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

#152

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Without the Oxford comma, it was the most reasonable way to read it.

You would never put an Oxford comma in a list of two items

Exactly. If someone says, “I’m running to the grocery and McDonald’s drive-thru,” no one assumes they are sharing a drive-thru…

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

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You would never put an Oxford comma in a list of two items

Exactly. If someone says, “I’m running to the grocery and McDonald’s drive-thru,” no one assumes they are sharing a drive-thru…

Pedantic HNers might...

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

#154
The fact that it's obviously AI sucks, but the fact that it also sucks on its own merits is extra frustrating to me. Choosing the jam-packed absolute nonsense with no attention to detail to the point of distraction, AI or not, over the other entries is ...bad. If someone had drawn this with pigs numbered 1, 2, and 1, or the crappy banners and typography, or the nonsense gondola lines, it'd still be a bad poster. I hate the AI cow in the runner up poster but it's at least a little more coherent a poster overall. Who the hell was judging this and by what criteria?

I wonder what their 2027 entries are going to look like; I wouldn't be surprised if this disincentivised prospective entrants. Why bother submitting if something as lazy and poorly done (and, of course, obviously AI) as that wins?

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

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There's no creativity or skill in handing something off to a generative model. At best, it's analogous to commissioning a work (as another poster said). It's not remotely like using a tool to create art.

People who say this must not really know just how much work goes into crafting the image via something like ComfyUI workflows, which is where the actual skill and creativity is. Now I don't know if this poster was that or whether it was just a single ChatGPT prompt, but look on places like r/StableDiffusion where people share their workflows, it's not really much different than EDM production, they're not actually pl…

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Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

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It immediately looks like AI slop because nearly every square inch is filled with with something, however meaningless and useless it might be to the overall composition. AI is good at filling an image with shit, and bad at knowing when to leave space and what isn’t necessary.

Yeah, my takeaway here is less about AI, and more that these judges have no sense of taste and just gave more points to whatever packed in the most pointless details.

Most people have no sense of taste, and I bet the jury’s average age indicates people that have no exposure or defense to newer technologies.

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

#157
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I quite like the 4th and 5th place posters. 4th: https://cdn.saffire.com/images.ashx?t=ig&rid=OhioStateFair&i... 5th: https://cdn.saffire.com/images.ashx?t=ig&rid=OhioStateFair&i...

I disagree... while those are definitely better art-wise, they are not better marketing-wise. I imagine this is why the ai one won because the others do nothing to actually sell the fair.

No fucking way, that rooster is awesome.

The winner makes me want to avoid the slopfair at all costs.

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

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People don’t care means if every poster were labeled “AI generated” with a black banner at the bottom, people wouldn’t care. Most can’t _recognize_ GPT & Gemini posters. Good point on preview of feature.

The nature of preference-ranking in LLM post training means that "slop" is something that the average person actually prefers. Maybe there's an argument that it's not intentional but just emerges as a form of reward-hacking (e.g. people like a little bit of slop or sycophancy but the model dials it to 11) but I imagine if the end result wasn't rewarded ultimately that would get penalized. The fact that a clearly slop…

Great points.

Wouldn't it be interesting if we could take this image back to ourselves in 2021 and see how we thought about it? I'm not a visual artist, so I would not have been overly critical of it. Today, AI art has a ton of baggage & as a result, the sloptacular is bothersome to me. But before I could recognize it, before certain styles became played out… probably much less offensive.

Will the generators keep up and become dynamic enough the immunization will never happen at scale?

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

#159

There is a real lag between people who can leverage AI vs those who can't. People who code using AI have a real advantage of using AI in different contexts because they understand how powerful it is. It's very similar to when the internet got big and those who knew how to use it had a significant advantage over those who didn't. AI hasn't really diffused to mass audience yet, at least not to the point of using it to…

The only advantage in using generative AI is that the market is engaged in a bunch of FOMO over it, so it looks good on your resume. That's it. It makes you far worse at doing your actual job, though. I have to deal with the slop that AI enthusiasts put out at work all the time, and they are going to get fired as soon as AI isn't trendy because their work sucks ass.

Saying that AI is bad for code is like saying a Porsche is bad for driving, without considering that maybe the driver is the one that sucks. It sounds like your co-workers suck.

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

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A parallel I like to draw is Thomas Kinkade and HDR photography. This style has always been popular, even pre-AI.

Analogies are lazy rhetorical devices. Different things are, unsurprisingly, different. Saying "X is like Y" does nothing but invite the conversation to take a turn into identifying all the differences between X and Y. Just defend the original subject on its own merits.

This comment is like an opinion someone had and then shared digitally with the world.

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I didn't mind the Thomas Kinkade reference, but you do have me thinking about to what extent analogies are lazy. Do you abstain from using them completely, or keep them rare?

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