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Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by bossyTeacher »

woozyolliew wrote: post #9
tokioyoyo wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be cool to see HN internal stats over the last 5 years. New users, posts from different accounts and etc.

Yeah. Could be astroturfing. Could just be a surge in enthusiasm after 10 years when all we had to be excited about was a new Javascript framework. Your analysis by account age might be telling

> Could just be a surge in enthusiasm after 10 years when all we had to be excited about was a new Javascript framework.

No. I distinctly remember HN being fairly skeptical of LLMs the way they were sold back in 2023. Then, the astroturfing began happening gradually. First in the comments and then in the posts.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by tokioyoyo »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #11
woozyolliew wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. Could be astroturfing. Could just be a surge in enthusiasm after 10 years when all we had to be excited about was a new Javascript framework. Your analysis by account age might be telling

> Could just be a surge in enthusiasm after 10 years when all we had to be excited about was a new Javascript framework. No. I distinctly remember HN being fairly skeptical of LLMs the way they were sold back in 2023. Then, the astroturfing began happening gradually. First in the comments and then in the posts.

To be very fair, I was also very skeptical about LLMs in 2023. Not so much anymore.

Edit: ok, i guess this account is from 2024, but been around a while. I guess can’t defend myself like this :)

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by defrost »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #8
zombot wrote: post #7

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It would have to be state law so the president can't pardon them.

> would have to be state law so the president can't pardon them Sure. Based on cursory analysis, California (B&P § 17200 + § 17941), New York (§ 63(12)) and New Hampshire (RSA 664:14 / 664:16 + RSA 358-A) seem to be good places to start. Worst case, we get a public record of who paid for what under what pretences.

How's this kind of thing play in the US with free speech, Citizen's United, companies with money can make political statements, etc.

What's the actual fraud angle? Non disclosure?

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by protocolture »

>But there don’t seem to be any contributors, or at least not human ones. I ran every article on the site through Pangram (the AI detector that credibly claims a near-zero false-positive rate). Of the 94 articles, 69% came back flagged as fully AI-generated, with another 28% flagged as partially AI-generated. Only three articles were classified as human-authored.

How credible is this credible claim?

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by claaams »

iammrpayments wrote: post #4

Probably doing something similar here. This place average post went from “look at this new javascript framework” to “I just became 100x more productive with AI” in the last 3 years

I’ve noticed this too. I’ve seen a ton ai defenders and hype people here. It’s embarrassing.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by raincole »

iammrpayments wrote: post #4

Probably doing something similar here. This place average post went from “look at this new javascript framework” to “I just became 100x more productive with AI” in the last 3 years

Or, you know, many people genuinely find it exciting to see AI pumping their long overdue side-projects, just like many people once found bikeshedding their frontend frameworks exciting?

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Post by loeg »

tokioyoyo wrote: post #12
bossyTeacher wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Could just be a surge in enthusiasm after 10 years when all we had to be excited about was a new Javascript framework. No. I distinctly remember HN being fairly skeptical of LLMs the way they were sold back in 2023. Then, the astroturfing began happening gradually. First in the comments and then in the posts.

To be very fair, I was also very skeptical about LLMs in 2023. Not so much anymore. Edit: ok, i guess this account is from 2024, but been around a while. I guess can’t defend myself like this :)

I share the same sentiment, and my account is at least ten years old.

Re: OpenAI's super PAC is funding AI-generated news site attacking industry critics

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Post by doix »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #11
woozyolliew wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. Could be astroturfing. Could just be a surge in enthusiasm after 10 years when all we had to be excited about was a new Javascript framework. Your analysis by account age might be telling

> Could just be a surge in enthusiasm after 10 years when all we had to be excited about was a new Javascript framework. No. I distinctly remember HN being fairly skeptical of LLMs the way they were sold back in 2023. Then, the astroturfing began happening gradually. First in the comments and then in the posts.

Yeah, I was very skeptical and now I've drank the kool-aid. Got multiple parallel cloud agents with independent loops making PRs and me reviewing them. AI is also reviewing PRs and sometimes even catches useful things.

LLMs in 2023, from what I remember, were slightly better auto complete. It's pretty different now.

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