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Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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nozzlegear wrote: post #27
toshinoriyagi wrote: post #8

They've also announced Qwen3.8-27B being released open-weight next week. Qwen3.6-27B is widely regarded as one of the best local models, especially since nothing else comes close to it, that isn't benchmaxxed, without being significantly larger. If 3.8 truly improves upon it that would be awesome.

Qwen3.6-35B is my daily driver for AI, and what convinced me to cancel my Claude subscription back in April. The Qwen3.6 line is easily the best local model I've tried, and I've tried a lot. I've got it diligently grinding away on my laptop right now, reviewing and fixing some bugs in my F# code.

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Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by dmix »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #31
adi2907 wrote: post #20

Once OpenAI and Anthropic are public, every such announcement will become a reliable sell signal

US AI labs really rub me the wrong way, especially with the doom and scare tactics they use. Both Altman and Dario keep talking about how AI will replace workers and how we should regulate LLMs for national security, Dario’s main point. LLMs are useful. We can all see that in agentic coding. But replacing everyone’s job? Hardly. And what’s with the scare tactic of trying to get the US government to ban foreign models…

Sam drank the "superintelligence" kool aid early on and said 30-40% of jobs could be impacted by AI, but recently admitted he was wrong

> “My scorecard, at the highest level, would be we’ve been roughly right on technological predictions and pretty wrong on the social and economic implications” https://www.cxtoday.com/ai-automation-in-cx/sam-altman-softe...

I agree re: Dario quietly pushing for government control. He also said LLMs would replace a lot of entry-level information jobs, doubling the unemployment rate from 4-5% to 10%.

Yale did a study recently showing little impact on employment in high-AI exposed jobs https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/ai-probably-not-yet-reas...

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by jofzar »

SyneRyder wrote: post #36
jofzar wrote: post #4

Lmao I love their video with the idea that people will be able to do their hobbies while ai does their job. Surely Alibaba is leading by example here by reducing work hours per week while keeping pay the same right? Right?

> I love their video with the idea that people will be able to do their hobbies while ai does their job... Are you not already experiencing this? I think this is fairly common for people using AI now, though the time may not always go into hobbies or sports. It's common for me to setup Claude with an hour+ task while I catch up on housework, or while I'm getting ready in the morning. In the last couple of weeks I've…

No I haven't had time to spend my afternoon rock climbing while ai generates documentation.

It's infinite work, I just did more work while codex was doing it's thing in the background.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by ComputerGuru »

simonw wrote: post #29
simonw wrote: post #5

> Today, we are officially releasing Qwen 3.8-Max, the most capable model in the Qwen family to date. This also marks the first time we will open-source the weights of a Qwen-Max-class model — the open weights will be released next week. I don't understand. That's dated today, but: https://twitter.com/alibaba_qwen/status/2078759124914098291 > Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon! [...] You don't have to wa…

... other comments were right, this is the full qwen3.8-max model, two weeks ago was the qwen3.8-max-preview release. Here's a pelican I just got out of the new model. It took 11 minutes and forgot the wheels! https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer#url=ht... (scroll to bottom) The reasoning trace is pretty great: > More additions: basket with fish in it? Cute detail — a fish poking out of a basket on t…

It gave the svg for the wheels in the reasoning trace then forgot to include them in its final answer. Lol.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by ycui7 »

adi2907 wrote: post #20

Once OpenAI and Anthropic are public, every such announcement will become a reliable sell signal

Can they still go public ? MiniMax M3 Pro is also coming, then DeepSeek-v4-Pro GA, then GLM5.5. There will only be bad news for them in the coming few weeks/months.

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by nozzlegear »

neumann wrote: post #34
nozzlegear wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Qwen3.6-35B is my daily driver for AI, and what convinced me to cancel my Claude subscription back in April. The Qwen3.6 line is easily the best local model I've tried, and I've tried a lot. I've got it diligently grinding away on my laptop right now, reviewing and fixing some bugs in my F# code.

compared to claude - how 'fast' is it in terms of throughput on your laptop?

It's pretty fast, faster than I could type anyway, but not as fast as Claude of course. My oMLX dashboard says I get about 45 tokens per second from the Qwen model I'm running (I host it on my M1 Mac Studio, not on my laptop).

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by EMIRELADERO »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #31
adi2907 wrote: post #20

Once OpenAI and Anthropic are public, every such announcement will become a reliable sell signal

US AI labs really rub me the wrong way, especially with the doom and scare tactics they use. Both Altman and Dario keep talking about how AI will replace workers and how we should regulate LLMs for national security, Dario’s main point. LLMs are useful. We can all see that in agentic coding. But replacing everyone’s job? Hardly. And what’s with the scare tactic of trying to get the US government to ban foreign models…

You are right to feel that way about the frontier labs, especially Anthropic. From https://stratechery.com/2026/anthropics-safety-superpower/

> "Anthropic believes that they are the ones who should have final say over how Anthropic is used; given that they think only they should be developing leading edge AI, they by extension think that only they should have final say over AI generally. When you further combine this realization with the company’s pronouncements about AI’s ability to conduct all economic activity, you realize that Anthropic’s leadership effectively wants to have power over everything and everyone."

Re: Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork

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Post by dionian »

syntaxing wrote: post #49
neumann wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

compared to claude - how 'fast' is it in terms of throughput on your laptop?

I use it with a strix halo server. 35B runs stupidly fast. 27B is about 700 TPS prefill and 30 TPS token generation. Which interestedly is about what Kimi K3 gives me depending on provider.

what hardware do you use or recommend for this? never heard of it until today.
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