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Why Book Corners won't sync contributions back to OpenStreetMap

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Re: Why Book Corners won't sync contributions back to OpenStreetMap

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In summary: Because OSM requires work and care to be put into the data submission plan, which isn’t worth it. A project like OSM would be bombarded with spam and junk submissions if it didn’t have these barriers to submission. Understandable.

It's not really considered an import if a person is looking at all of the changes. They would just need a clear license from their users.

(an import is when there isn't complete review...)

Re: Why Book Corners won't sync contributions back to OpenStreetMap

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In summary: Because OSM requires work and care to be put into the data submission plan, which isn’t worth it. A project like OSM would be bombarded with spam and junk submissions if it didn’t have these barriers to submission. Understandable.

>A project like OSM would be bombarded with spam and junk submissions if it didn’t have these barriers to submission.

I'm not sure about this. The barriers to submissions are honestly more likely to cause object and amenity level data to become out of date. Google is able to have such an up to date place database because it relies on a large quantity of crowdsourced submissions, and employs consensus to figure out the truth.

Re: Why Book Corners won't sync contributions back to OpenStreetMap

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I appreciate OSM for maintaining a higher data quality bar than other projects (Overture places are mostly junk outside of USA), but it's also just artificially limiting itself by not allowing streamlined paths to data contributions.

It seems like the path is streamlined once they know who you are.

This sort of feels like a generational thing but I would have flown over.

Re: Why Book Corners won't sync contributions back to OpenStreetMap

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I think the piece I’m confused most about is why the little free library website’s map isn’t the place to log little free libraries. That being said, it makes sense that OSM has guidelines like this in place to ensure the data quality stays, well, quality.

I feel like having such a map at all is kind of antithetical to building community. Shows you don't care enough to take a stroll in your 'hood to find such a one by happenstance (or to find neighbors to populate yours) and are hunting them down to share your self-published slop or something. Besides, it makes things a hell of a lot easier for griefers and trolls.

Re: Why Book Corners won't sync contributions back to OpenStreetMap

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This is trivial to navigate. Use the notes API to post the likely presence of a public bookcase with details (link to image, description, etc); and the community will slowly ingest the contributions.

Or set up a maproulette challenge with much the same detail.

Or just a geojson dump under an ODBL licence and share with with relevant communities. The third one or something very like it is required if you have mixed ODBL with non ODBL content.

Re: Why Book Corners won't sync contributions back to OpenStreetMap

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Also I don't get the point why you would want them easily scrapeable to begin with. If you have eyes to read and can walk across YOUR neighborhoods, you would have eventually seen one. I thought that was the whole point? They are not exactly hidden. I find those public bookcase incidental low barrier offerings to a reading exprience you just stumble upon, nothing you would seek out on a map. Why would you want to hav…

Recently it's seemed like (very roughly) half the Little Free Libraries I see aren't in OSM. I sometimes edit OSM, so I'm wondering whether any public bookshelf omissions are intentional, and adding the shelves would be unwelcome by the people running them.

The few places I have seen book nooks like this, they end filled up with religious literature which is usually not the intent of the person who started it.

Re: Why Book Corners won't sync contributions back to OpenStreetMap

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I appreciate OSM for maintaining a higher data quality bar than other projects (Overture places are mostly junk outside of USA), but it's also just artificially limiting itself by not allowing streamlined paths to data contributions.

It is streamlined for individuals, and I have no interest in it being streamlined for anything else.

I'd rather no data than bad data. There is no seperate baby & bath water. If a bulk source of data contains an unknown mix of good and bad data, that is all one big single item of bad data that is of no use to anyone.

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