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Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

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Post by Nition »

no-name-here wrote: post #111
Nition wrote: post #10

The other four top entries are all obvious human efforts as well. Must be annoying for them to lose to a blatant AI entry.

> The other four top entries are all obvious human efforts Creator of 2nd place said they used AI but then used photoshop etc for manual composition/paint over. https://www.reddit.com/r/Columbus/s/cJQqjC7C7q

Ah, #2 looked to me like they had done some manual Photoshopping on real photos. Sounds like it was more like manual Photoshopping on AI images.

I suppose it's funny then that the winner is fully AI, second place is partial AI, and fully human creations are the losers.

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Post by apical_dendrite »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #114
apical_dendrite wrote: post #58

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It's really important to define what "people who can leverage AI" means. I've found that using AI judiciously with close human supervision provides an advantage, but using the latest models with the latest harnesses can look like it's giving you a huge advantage superficially while actually costing you more time in the long run.

If you're already trending towards 10x developer status in a niche area of programming, sure, AI will secretly make you less productive (in that niche) while making you feel like you're going faster, for a little while. For everyone and every other situation, hard disagree.

We're currently wasting a lot of time cleaning up slop created by overusing AI. The loop is: developer uses AI to create a huge amount of code very quickly. But the developer didn't understand the underlying system very well so the specs generated by the AI contain a lot of faulty assumptions and the code was then built on those assumptions. So you have features that probably shouldn't have existed in the first place, but because they do exist people have provided feedback on them, and the developer then uses the AI to implement that feedback, but still doesn't understand the system so much of the code for the revisions is still wrong. So that individual developer saw a huge productivity increase, in the sense that he generated a vast amount of code really quickly, but the team as a whole saw a productivity decrease.

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Post by happytoexplain »

internet2000 wrote: post #83
krackers wrote: post #66

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The nature of preference-ranking in LLM post training means that "slop" is something that the average person actually prefers. Maybe there's an argument that it's not intentional but just emerges as a form of reward-hacking (e.g. people like a little bit of slop or sycophancy but the model dials it to 11) but I imagine if the end result wasn't rewarded ultimately that would get penalized. The fact that a clearly slop…

A parallel I like to draw is Thomas Kinkade and HDR photography. This style has always been popular, even pre-AI.

Analogies are lazy rhetorical devices. Different things are, unsurprisingly, different. Saying "X is like Y" does nothing but invite the conversation to take a turn into identifying all the differences between X and Y.

Just defend the original subject on its own merits.

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Post by pkaeding »

DrewADesign wrote: post #96
furyofantares wrote: post #78

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You're right, for example photography was controversial.

And photography is something where the image determines whether or not it’s art. If you are constructing an image using form, shape, light, subjects, tool selection, and all sorts of other factors to translate a 3D scene into a 2D image, revealing your particular perspective, then that is art, and pretty difficult at that. If you take a flat, objective, documentary picture of a painting, that’s not art. If you take a…

Is taping a banana to the wall art?

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Post by kdidiwkdkw »

happytoexplain wrote: post #124
internet2000 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A parallel I like to draw is Thomas Kinkade and HDR photography. This style has always been popular, even pre-AI.

Analogies are lazy rhetorical devices. Different things are, unsurprisingly, different. Saying "X is like Y" does nothing but invite the conversation to take a turn into identifying all the differences between X and Y. Just defend the original subject on its own merits.

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Post by NDlurker »

Barbing wrote: post #44
NDlurker wrote: post #27

I just drove through rural Washington and Idaho and saw similar style flyers on all the boards at grocery stores and local businesses. Saw some AI image stickers for sale at an espresso stand in Idaho. USA 250 AI stuff all over northern Idaho. AI flags. Funny stuff. Love it

New storefronts with AI logos, food with AI caricatures of the chef, small taxi companies with GPT’s handiwork wrapped right over the doors…

The rural people have really embraced AI as a replacement for clipart and local semi-professional artists

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

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Post by baubino »

RugnirViking wrote: post #20
annzabelle wrote: post #4

My workplace did a sweepstakes for the world cup and there were bonus prizes for decorating your desk. All three winners had simply uploaded photos of their desks to an AI image generator and had it add flags etc to decorate and submitted that. One person used AI to make it look like he was wearing the jersey of his assigned team. The person running the contest wrote up something about how impressed she was with the…

Theres a strange element of shamelessness to it, though I also think theres (sometimes) another of adoption/novelty. To you or I, steeped in the internet and hacker news culture, its pretty clear that sharing AI work as your own is a transgression; an inherently rude act. Its even impolite to share ai output in general, unless the discussion calls for it. I think some people I see out in the world doing it are still…

> …what was superficially impressive is the same each time. The first poem is the same as the hundredth…

This is what irritates me about most AI use that I see. Lots of talk about creativity! and innovation! But most of what I see is novelty (sometimes) the first time around followed by persistent levels of intellectual and creative laziness thereafter.

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Post by carlosjobim »

RugnirViking wrote: post #43
carlosjobim wrote: post #34

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Mindset is: 1. Can I benefit from it? A Yes -> Do it B No -> Don't do it Variable: What is the risk of getting caught and is it worth risking? Many or most people operate on this programming, AI or no AI.

> most people I'm aware that social trust in some places is lower than others (and that im lucky enough to live in a place with high social trust), but I really don't think this is true. Though ruthless optimisers do exist, my experience suggests the idea that most people do this is laughable. I'd guess 1% or thereabouts. I think most people are kinda bumbling along on autopilot trying to make people happy and avoid…

People even plan their pregnancies around government benefits and maternity leave regulations. The mass machine man is the norm.

Re: AI poster wins Ohio State Fair contest

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Post by skybrian »

DrewADesign wrote: post #69
skybrian wrote: post #32

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Huh, I thought I was reasonably good at this but didn't see them. Rather than getting annoyed about it, maybe it could be a fun puzzle? Spot the AI glitches in this image. Maybe do that contest before giving the award, though, among the finalists?

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If you don't try to have fun with it then you're not going to have fun.
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