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Re: Get ready to flee, Americans in ten countries warned

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Where you were for the last 47 years? Turn on the news.

Hmm, what could have happened 47 years ago. Is that when the current islamist regime overthrew the dictator that the US & UK put into place by orchestrating a coup against the democratically elected government because they wanted to nationalize the oil industry? Seriously this 47 years ago BS needs to stop.

Strange how this argument keeps getting made but the obvious implication is never put into question. After all, the revolution "succeeded". So, tell me, now that students and socialists and ... put mullahs in power, and "kept" this great oil wealth, surely they're wealthy now? Has the oil wealth benefited them, or just the mullahs?

Oh wait ...

Because, people don't seem very happy about the result of the "success" of the revolution. Not at all. They also seem desperately poor, even if relatively successful. Only the massacring mullahs they brought to power look rich at all.

In fact now most people seem to wish that the evil oil companies would have won the revolution. Because, of course, they would have employed and helped the population.

Take for example the iconic photo:

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K5Yp!,w_1456,c_limit...

Apparently the girl on the left was executed by the mullahs for protesting and the girl on the right was forced out of the country. Doesn't sound like this "overthrowing the dictator" was much of a success at all ...

Re: Get ready to flee, Americans in ten countries warned

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Wondering when did political discourse become so prevalent in hacker news? I have now become accustomed to it being normal, but I remember the hacker news of 10 years was not like this. Why has this become so normal? I miss the days where this was focused on technology and, well, hacking. Can we stop engaging this political commentary please.

The hacker community has always had a strong political element to it, what else is the GNU GPL but a statement of political intent? Anything which deals with the allocation of power and resources is political.

The old hacker community leaned anti-authoritarian and libertarian, if anything. The modern, everything-is-political "hackers" would be horrified by them.

Re: Get ready to flee, Americans in ten countries warned

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The hacker community has always had a strong political element to it, what else is the GNU GPL but a statement of political intent? Anything which deals with the allocation of power and resources is political.

The old hacker community leaned anti-authoritarian and libertarian, if anything. The modern, everything-is-political "hackers" would be horrified by them.

I'm not being funny, but anti-authoritarianism and libertarianism are literally political stances. To be anti-authoritarian you need to understand what authoritarianism is, appreciate why it is undesirable to a hacker specifically, and to have a system of reasoning which allows you to articulate these sentiments. This is doing politics in the oldest and truest sense.

Re: Get ready to flee, Americans in ten countries warned

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post #11

Wondering when did political discourse become so prevalent in hacker news? I have now become accustomed to it being normal, but I remember the hacker news of 10 years was not like this. Why has this become so normal? I miss the days where this was focused on technology and, well, hacking. Can we stop engaging this political commentary please.

You may not want to engage with politics, but politics will engage with you.

Your sort is always nagging and prodding at the public to engage with politics, failing to understand that it may motivate the public to vote against your causes. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Re: Get ready to flee, Americans in ten countries warned

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post #11

Wondering when did political discourse become so prevalent in hacker news? I have now become accustomed to it being normal, but I remember the hacker news of 10 years was not like this. Why has this become so normal? I miss the days where this was focused on technology and, well, hacking. Can we stop engaging this political commentary please.

The hacker community has always had a strong political element to it, what else is the GNU GPL but a statement of political intent? Anything which deals with the allocation of power and resources is political.

I remember the old hacker news though having more "we built xyz" posts and less any "War, news, flee from death" type of things and even AI dystopian-themed things (regardless of AI not being out then, we had more focus on building products).

edit: maybe politics isn't what I really want out of hacker news. I think what I mean is I want less non-building related posts.

Re: Get ready to flee, Americans in ten countries warned

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I do not support terrorism or genocide. Can you say the same?

I don't support Israel's terrorism, nor Hamas's. Hamas is the only group in that conflict that consistently calls for genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they certainly could.
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