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Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Why would anyone buy a Tesla in 2026?

Best charging experience and best software experience. Note: I do not want this to be true. Other companies please copy what Tesla has done with both of these. You’ve had years to do this and failed.

I'm an admitted Elon hater, so maybe that clouds my judgement. But I rented a Tesla 3 a few years back to try an EV before deciding to buy one. I ultimately went with a Chevy Bolt, and find the Apple Carplay to be far better than Tesla's proprietary system. The only thing I recall that Tesla did better was pre-conditioning the battery before planned charging--something Apple Carplay (at least its current version) lacks the API to handle.

As far as charging, I think that was the case even as recently as ~2 years ago. But today, the charging game is pretty decent for CCS cars. You can even charge at Tesla stations using an adapter.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Best charging experience and best software experience. Note: I do not want this to be true. Other companies please copy what Tesla has done with both of these. You’ve had years to do this and failed.

(In the US) I switched from Tesla to Rivian. Their approach seems to be “Tesla, but nicer”. They have a similar non-legacy automaker feel. That said while I appreciate their design focus their software still feels not quite as polished as Tesla’s.

“Tesla, but nicer, and $20k more”

Also, while FSD has limitations, I have found it provides enormous utility for older people, and Rivian doesn’t yet have a competing product for FSD.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not entirely sure why you're getting downvoted. I wasn't able to find a source for the data but it is probably new vehicle registrations. Europe here seems to include Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Switzerland.

Sweden, Finland and Iceland would be part of any definition of Europe? They're all EU countries, and (irrelevant to that) are now all NATO members too.

Switzerland is not but its meager population can hardly significantly skew the sales stats

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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post #5

Why would anyone buy a Tesla in 2026?

Best charging experience and best software experience. Note: I do not want this to be true. Other companies please copy what Tesla has done with both of these. You’ve had years to do this and failed.

Not really true in Europe where charging is properly standardized.

“Best software” is subjective as well. Many car owners really don’t care for their software and just want to bypass the infotainment system for CarPlay and Android Auto.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

(In the US) I switched from Tesla to Rivian. Their approach seems to be “Tesla, but nicer”. They have a similar non-legacy automaker feel. That said while I appreciate their design focus their software still feels not quite as polished as Tesla’s.

“Tesla, but nicer, and $20k more” Also, while FSD has limitations, I have found it provides enormous utility for older people, and Rivian doesn’t yet have a competing product for FSD.

The Rivian R2 is not $20k more. It’s $5k more than the deeply stripped down Model Y base model.

The R2 base model is not as premium as the higher models but the Model Y base model is really deeply stripped down including some really barebones stuff like removing liner material from the frunk and removing some of the exterior LED lights.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Best charging experience and best software experience. Note: I do not want this to be true. Other companies please copy what Tesla has done with both of these. You’ve had years to do this and failed.

I'm an admitted Elon hater, so maybe that clouds my judgement. But I rented a Tesla 3 a few years back to try an EV before deciding to buy one. I ultimately went with a Chevy Bolt, and find the Apple Carplay to be far better than Tesla's proprietary system. The only thing I recall that Tesla did better was pre-conditioning the battery before planned charging--something Apple Carplay (at least its current version) lac…

Calling it clouded is an understatement. Apart from some Chinese cars (xpeng comes to mind), Rivian, bmw new class (but on paper; practically there are too many issues), other cars don't even come close to Teslas.

Re: Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Tesla, but nicer, and $20k more” Also, while FSD has limitations, I have found it provides enormous utility for older people, and Rivian doesn’t yet have a competing product for FSD.

The Rivian R2 is not $20k more. It’s $5k more than the deeply stripped down Model Y base model. The R2 base model is not as premium as the higher models but the Model Y base model is really deeply stripped down including some really barebones stuff like removing liner material from the frunk and removing some of the exterior LED lights.

Cheapest Model Y is $40k and cheapest R2 is $58k. Cheapest Model 3 is $37k. The vast majority of Teslas sold are in an entirely different market than Rivian, which hasn’t even started delivering R2s yet.

So really, the price gap is $40k or more until R2s are actually delivered.

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