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Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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"Sushi has been consumed in Japan for more than 1,000 years but the Japanese had historically preferred tuna, seeing raw salmon as parasite-ridden and unpleasant to the palette. " English isn't my first language and even I know "palette" is wrong. Is it normal for official news outlets to write stuff like this?

Perhaps a happy accident.

Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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I am surprised by the statement "Today, salmon sushi is a staple of Japanese cuisine" While in Japan a few years ago, I found no salmon on the menu in sushi places. When inquiring why, we were told that salmon is not that good, and that is more a food for kids than adults. Did it change or are we just one data point?

It's hard to say, depending on how far back your idea of "a few years ago" might be or where exactly you ate. After all, Japan has a lot of sushi restaurants and even different sushi styles. For example, you definitely wouldn't find salmon in an edomae sushi restaurant.

For reference, salmon was the most popular choice in conveyor belt sushi places 3 years ago. https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h01627/

Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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1. The Title should be "Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences". It fits the character limit, why change it? 2. A lot of the conditions for Salmon farming can be drastically improved or completely eliminated if they have done it further away in deep sea rather than coast. It just cost more. 3. China is rapidly improving their Salmon Farming so there isn't much to worry about for Norw…

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The connotation of drastic always being negative is through common usage and not strict definition. See: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drastically

Using drastic in this instance is an appropriate, but rare, usage in a positive sense. You are correct that dramatic would be a more commonly used neutral synonym, but using drastic is technically just fine here. It is only slightly odd usage by common practice, but as a native english speaker I hardly noticed it until you pointed it out.

By using a less common word and outside of the common usage of that word, to my ear this adds emphasis, like reading the word in BOLD text or capitalized.

Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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> A hamburger probably has a better nutritional value than farmed salmon. A sensational statement that is utterly false. Per 100g, Norwegian farmed salmon has 0.1x the sodium, 0.5x the saturated fat, 2x the protein, 20x the Omega-3 fatty acids and infinity-x the vitamin D of your hamburger. Farmed salmon is a minimally processed single-ingredient protein, while your hamburger is ultra-processed and packed with refine…

Pardon, but how the hell is my hamburger packed with preservatives? And how, other than grinding, is it ultra processed, especially if the beef was given to me by a local rancher? I do not understand? And where the hell did the corn syrup come from? I never put Aunt Jemima on my burgers? Not even brown sugar. Where in the - Grass-fed beef - Sourdough bun - Lettuce - Tomato - Onion Is all this stuff you cite? Any cond…

That’s not what “a hamburger” consists of for most of the population. I’d guess That makes “a hamburger is healthier than salmon” wildly incorrect as a generic statement.

Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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I think this is a veiled advertisement for Norway. Half of the world is engulfed in wars and terror (half across the road towards Mad Max), however Norway is worrying about the environmental effect of salmon feces on its fjords.

Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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Growth hormones. It’s better now than some years ago, but still. Some claim the do not use them at all. And they use a lot of antibiotics. And there is some accumulation of dioxins and PCBs in the fat due to the feed, but this has also been approved somewhat.

>Some claim the do not use them at all. It is against the law in most if not all EU countries. It is also the dispute between US and EU agriculture trade.

FWIW, Norway is not a member of the EU - if that is what you are implying.

If that is not your point, I apologize, but then I don’t see the connection (maybe you could elaborate?)

Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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Astaxanthin for the color fair. What about the salmon is bad for pregnant women?

> Astaxanthin for the color fair. Why is it fair? Wild salmon also consume astaxanthin. It’s like complaining that the farmers are bad for trying to mimic the fish’s natural diet.

Farmed salmon meat is pink, whereas wild salmon meat is white/greyish. A dull color.

They don’t put the coloring in the food to emulate natural food sources. They do it because it looks more appealing to most consumers.

Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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"Sushi has been consumed in Japan for more than 1,000 years but the Japanese had historically preferred tuna, seeing raw salmon as parasite-ridden and unpleasant to the palette. " English isn't my first language and even I know "palette" is wrong. Is it normal for official news outlets to write stuff like this?

No. Sometimes the spill checker just auto co-wrecks people.

auto-erotics ... it was sitting right there.

Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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I live in Norway and me and my family do not eat farmed fish - for multiple reasons; political, ecological, animal cruelty etc. A hamburger probably has a better nutritional value than farmed salmon. Children and pregnant women should also limit the intake because it can disrupt development. And the color is fake, if they do not add coloring to the feed, farmed salmon would be gray. I could go on the whole day about…

> A hamburger probably has a better nutritional value than farmed salmon. Why would you think that? Ground beef typically has higher saturated fat than even farmed salmon and a lot less omega-3. A hamburger adds a refined carbohydrate bun and sauces on top of that. I think your political beliefs are overriding factual accuracy. > And the color is fake, if they do not add coloring to the food, farmed salmon would be g…

Absolutely valid to attack the political beliefs here. Farmed fish is somehow considered ecologically harmful but it's significantly less harmful than overfishing and allows for bringing extremely efficient, healthy food to the continental interior, which has the potential to reduce heart disease without medication.

It's so narrow-minded to treat farmed fish as some moral failing.

Re: Norway became a global salmon behemoth. Now it's facing the consequences

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Some claim the do not use them at all. It is against the law in most if not all EU countries. It is also the dispute between US and EU agriculture trade.

FWIW, Norway is not a member of the EU - if that is what you are implying. If that is not your point, I apologize, but then I don’t see the connection (maybe you could elaborate?)

But Norway is part of the EEA and is therefore bound by many EU regulations.
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