Live data from Hacker News

Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

linuxiac.com

31–40 of 81 posts

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#31
(insert Ron Paul It's Happening meme here)

I work in the refurb department of an ewaste recycling company. Because we don't have a Windows OEM license, we officially can't install Windows on any of the PCs we sell. (I'll direct people to download the Windows install media if asked.[0]) On the systems I sell[1], Linux Mint has a nice OEM install option that after installation, there's a 'ship to customer' script[2] that starts an OOBE after the next boot, so I don't have to make up a login, and hope it doesn't get lost anywhere.

I'm not sure how many people keep the Linux install after they buy it, but it's cool to think we're helping move the needle on this! FWIW, I've had several people directed to me specifically for Linux systems, so I know it's more than 3.

Yes, I run Linux everywhere at work (it's the wild west without a Windows domain), and at home.

[0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11 (ewww)

[1] https://www.ebay.com/str/evolutionecycling

[2] https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/lates...

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#32
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget PewDiePie, the last person I expected to do a video about migrating to Linux.

whatever happened to that guy? He used to be the biggest thing on Youtube.

Moved on from content for kids, now retired peacefully in Japan.

There was that odd moment where he was competing for subs with T-Series, the Bollywood music company, but when he realized he wouldn't be number 1 on YouTube forever, he just stopped giving a shit.

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#33

(insert Ron Paul It's Happening meme here) I work in the refurb department of an ewaste recycling company. Because we don't have a Windows OEM license, we officially can't install Windows on any of the PCs we sell. (I'll direct people to download the Windows install media if asked.[0]) On the systems I sell[1], Linux Mint has a nice OEM install option that after installation, there's a 'ship to customer' script[2] th…

From one recycler to another, thanks for the work you do!

Personally, I typically use gray market Windows keys. I have a hard time moving machines with Linux on them.

But I think you are doing a really good thing!

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

irrelevant in context, assuming you're right, but considering you made a throwaway to say it, probably not

There's a lot of recorded history of him being racist. Check the Wikipedia if you can't believe me

I just did, looks circumstational to me at worst, but okay, that's still not relevant to the context of this thread, or what?

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

irrelevant in context, assuming you're right, but considering you made a throwaway to say it, probably not

He literally used the n-word in a stream, slip of tongue. It was such a big deal back then that even my Bloomberg Terminal thought it was worth mentioning for some reason.

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#36
post #8

Their source is StatCounter. I would trust the trends but not their absolute values. This month, Steam reported an increase to 4.01% while Cloudflare's human activity reports ~6%.

Even the trends should be taken with caution. By the very nature of their collection methodology and Firefox’s user base, they massively undercount Firefox (almost certainly by more than 30%, from the last estimates I remember; and possibly significantly more). I would expect them to heavily undercount Linux for similar reasons.

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#37
We developed Linux with 1st class support for our desktop app. It was extremely painful due to missing some Webview functionality that is available for both MacOS and Windows, so we're maintaining an entire 2nd branch of UI code to run CEF instead. One of our developers is 24/7 on Linux and basically just fixes Linux bugs, and even they need a couple VMs to try out random (especially old) distros and DEs to make sure it all works.

Anyways, I'm saying this because we expected ~1% Linux users, but we needed something to stand out against our competitors. I just pulled our latest data, and 7.5% of our paying users are on Linux.

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#38
I've been using Linux on/off since the late 90s. And now, both my mini-PC and my laptop are running Fedora, and I swear by them.

So as much as I want to believe that others share my taste, I'm not sure how to interpret the two statistics in this article.

Sadly, I'd lean towards this article's attribution:

"Cloudflare’s unfiltered figures may include automated requests unless human traffic is classified. This is especially relevant to Linux, widely used for servers, automation, development environments, and headless browser workloads"

I suspect many people are running AI agents on cloud servers, which are most likely running Linux, and many of those agents are browsing the web. That's more likely what is driving this adoption. That, and as the article points out, more accurate OS classification on the part of StatCounter (from unknown to "Linux"), especially if its over the span of 1 month.

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#39

As the article points out, we’re not sure about the validity of these numbers. Anecdotally though, the idea of major creators like Linus Tech Tips and Marques Brownlee putting out Linux content was unheard of a few short years ago. I have been seeing a wide trend among the Windows tech-savvy universe of frustrated users who have social media platforms suggesting strongly that people give it a try. Plus, you’ve got St…

In my experience, LLMs are not great at resolving linux issues, but they are better than what we've had in the past. Trying to use forums and web searches was exhausting, and you'd often deal with people who were trying to show how smart they are and rather than answering your questions they demand to know "what are you really trying to do?"

> you'd often deal with people who were trying to show how smart they are and rather than answering your questions they demand to know "what are you really trying to do?"

In over 30 years of using the Internet I have seen this question form countless times, and I have posed it myself countless times.

I have never had it in mind to "show how smart I am", and cannot recall ever walking away with the impression that someone else was doing so.

The goal is to solve the other person's problem; the rationale is a genuine belief that the other person has an https://xyproblem.info/ . This belief is, often, motivated by confusion over the description of what's happened so far, or by the OP taking actions that seem inconsistent or needlessly convoluted.

Getting help from other people, as a beginner in a field (any field) requires accepting that you might not yet know the right question to ask, or how to ask it. That's just how knowledge works.

The worst thing about forums in my experience, by far, is people who pose as wanting help but who really just want to rant. Specifically for Linux forums, rant about Linux because it doesn't work like Windows.

Re: Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America

#40

(insert Ron Paul It's Happening meme here) I work in the refurb department of an ewaste recycling company. Because we don't have a Windows OEM license, we officially can't install Windows on any of the PCs we sell. (I'll direct people to download the Windows install media if asked.[0]) On the systems I sell[1], Linux Mint has a nice OEM install option that after installation, there's a 'ship to customer' script[2] th…

From one recycler to another, thanks for the work you do! Personally, I typically use gray market Windows keys. I have a hard time moving machines with Linux on them. But I think you are doing a really good thing!

I am curious what is considered a grey market license here? I would guess legal departments only see 2 colors for their licenses, so what makes it a middle-state?
Post reply on HN