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Re: Cursor removed cost information from the usage page and CSV export

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> Do not underestimate how much popular harnesses are spamming the context window. The context window is very important. Do we have any insight into whether it is actually spam and not useful info such as project or programming language specific context?

in my book anything that is (I'm sure well intentioned) and injected to help the agent — but doesn't help it — is a waste of tokens but even injected context that when I read it sounds useful can oversteer the model and make it second guess or take a more complicated route than it normally would (you can see this when looking at traces with and without that injected context) often harnesses also mention in their syst…

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Re: Cursor removed cost information from the usage page and CSV export

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> in my book anything that is (I'm sure well intentioned) and injected to help the agent — but doesn't help it — is a waste of tokens How do you tell, though? I guess what I'm asking is: the data you presented shows some crazy differences, but the token burn alone doesn't tell us enough. What was the output of the task like? Did the harnesses that burned fewer tokens give you as good a result as the ones that burned…

I agree, only looking at the token burn is not enough in this case it was 10 tasks and all harnesses could complete the tasks successfully, of course now the question is: will this hold for more and more complex tasks but I had to start somewhere :) Checksum: Compute a file’s SHA-256 checksum and save the exact digest to an output file. Log correlation: Correlate nested service logs to identify and summarize a reques…

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Re: Cursor removed cost information from the usage page and CSV export

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It's so unfortunate people don't realize it's cheaper to write their own well working agent instead of insisting with general purpose bloated ones like Claude. 200$/month is a lot of money on Luna/DS4 flash, like really a lot and the results are much better than clowning on bloated CC. It's absurd how you have more and more organizations encoding their processes on LLMs and "engineers" (charlatan coders) don't even b…

> the results are much better than clowning on bloated CC. I won't argue with the cost effectiveness, but the results are very much not better. Opus and Fable are in a different league than DS4 Flash. Even GPT Terra, which I really like overall, sometimes gets stuck in weird loops and starts to do stupid stuff once its context window fills up. Whereas I can more or less trust the big models to just Do The Thing™ on t…

You're confusing models with the agents.

You can use opus or fable if you please, I'm advocating for writing your own agent instead of used generic bloated ones like CC.

Re: Cursor removed cost information from the usage page and CSV export

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> Claude Code injects a ton of tools into the system prompt It's so unfortunate they don't let you use the subscription with other harnesses anymore - since even if I used OpenCode they'd still get a bunch of useful data from the API calls, meanwhile I could stretch their tier limits way further.

Subsidized Anthropic subscriptions seem to work fine on the oh-my-pi harness, somehow.

Really? I immediately got a warning that the tokens would come from extra usage, and noped out immediately (so maybe pi lied to me?)

Re: Cursor removed cost information from the usage page and CSV export

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> Claude Code injects a ton of tools into the system prompt It's so unfortunate they don't let you use the subscription with other harnesses anymore - since even if I used OpenCode they'd still get a bunch of useful data from the API calls, meanwhile I could stretch their tier limits way further.

It's so unfortunate people don't realize it's cheaper to write their own well working agent instead of insisting with general purpose bloated ones like Claude. 200$/month is a lot of money on Luna/DS4 flash, like really a lot and the results are much better than clowning on bloated CC. It's absurd how you have more and more organizations encoding their processes on LLMs and "engineers" (charlatan coders) don't even b…

Thanks, you make me feel better for spending the (fun!) time writing my first harness in Emacs Lisp with a ‘Emacs UI’ and later writing a command line harness in Common Lisp. Am I more productive with my own harnesses? Not yet, but the second harness I wrote in Common Lisp is promising, and I might write a little book just on this project to encourage people to hack what I wrote and make it their own.

Re: Cursor removed cost information from the usage page and CSV export

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please, you're dramatically overestimating who gives a shit about this.

“If there's a Nazi at the table and ten other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with eleven Nazis.” You’re telling me there are a lot of Nazis we’re going to have to deal with. No problem, we’ve done it before, we’ll do it again.

It's Monday morning and you arrive at your comfortable corporate cubicle. You fire up the old Cursor to work on some code and fire off a prompt in "Auto" mode. Without even knowing, the request is routed straight to Cursor Grok 4.5, making you a card carrying member of the nazi party.

It must be tiresome to live life worrying about things like this. Thankfully, the International Criminal Court today does not operate with a terminal case reddit brain.

Re: Cursor removed cost information from the usage page and CSV export

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> the results are much better than clowning on bloated CC. I won't argue with the cost effectiveness, but the results are very much not better. Opus and Fable are in a different league than DS4 Flash. Even GPT Terra, which I really like overall, sometimes gets stuck in weird loops and starts to do stupid stuff once its context window fills up. Whereas I can more or less trust the big models to just Do The Thing™ on t…

You're confusing models with the agents. You can use opus or fable if you please, I'm advocating for writing your own agent instead of used generic bloated ones like CC.

I'm not confusing anything since you can't use custom harnesses with your Claude subscription—you have to use Claude Code. So as far as the Claude sub is concerned, the models and the harness are coupled.

Re: Cursor removed cost information from the usage page and CSV export

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smol is basically this 9 line python agent re-implemented in Go https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49006862 I'll have more about it in the next hours/days, you can follow me on twitter in the meantime ( https://x.com/__tosh )

So smol is your agent? Do you have a GitHub link?

repo is published now: https://github.com/smol-env/smol
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