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Has the New Cocaine Arrived?

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Re: Has the New Cocaine Arrived?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had this exact phrasing ready to paste in the comments. I do wonder if it's describing doing more of it in the moment, rather than over time.

Yeah. Addiction is usually long-term. Compulsive redosing is taking another unplanned dose of the drug while still high.

like the difference between someone who intended to have 3 drinks, but once they're 2 drinks in it makes them want to have 3 more drinks, and the familiar alcoholic.

Re: Has the New Cocaine Arrived?

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"It did have a moreish quality that could trigger compulsive redosing for some users, but it was also easy to get." What an odd way of saying that it's addictive.

It's a very specific way of saying "addictive," which I appreciate. Different drugs are addictive for different reasons, and redosing is triggered by different physiological inputs.

Compulsive redosing refers to a short-term addictive quality. It feels good so you take more.

Addictive can mean a lot of things. Opiates have agonizing, long-lasting withdrawal effects that can trigger redosing over the course of months or years. That's also a meaning of "addictive" but one that is intentionally not included by the author's wording.

Re: Has the New Cocaine Arrived?

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I never understood clubbing. After one hour standing there like an utilty pole and having spend over 100 euro for entrance and two beers or drinks I'm already tipsy enough, I'm out of cash, and I need to visit the filthy toilet. Then I realised "they are all on drugs, that's why they're enjoying it".

I have heard this take many times. But I don’t get it. For me 80% of the experience is the music. I can easily enjoy a club for a whole night without taking any drugs if I like the bands or DJs. Choose the night/venue accoring to your music taste and then it’s just like a really long concert.

Re: Has the New Cocaine Arrived?

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I was amused by the compulsively positive way this article is written. I don't think I've had read about "falling in love" with a designer drug or about "chemsex enthusiasts" before. All good, let people do what they want to do, but no downsides at all, even for the other drugs mentioned? Cocaine's problem is "the irritation", Ecstasy has too much of a "hard comedown"? And all of them are addictive, but that's just a…

For every addict, there are many responsible adults that can set healthy boundaries and have a positive relationship with recreational drugs. This article is for them.

I don't see an audience description in the article.

Especially if you're a responsible adult, wouldn't you want to be informed about the downsides?

Re: Has the New Cocaine Arrived?

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post #26

I was amused by the compulsively positive way this article is written. I don't think I've had read about "falling in love" with a designer drug or about "chemsex enthusiasts" before. All good, let people do what they want to do, but no downsides at all, even for the other drugs mentioned? Cocaine's problem is "the irritation", Ecstasy has too much of a "hard comedown"? And all of them are addictive, but that's just a…

What about:

>> In an era obsessed with both hedonism and productivity...

This sounds like the exhausting root problem, and I don't want to participate in maxing either.

Re: Has the New Cocaine Arrived?

#47

I never understood clubbing. After one hour standing there like an utilty pole and having spend over 100 euro for entrance and two beers or drinks I'm already tipsy enough, I'm out of cash, and I need to visit the filthy toilet. Then I realised "they are all on drugs, that's why they're enjoying it".

You're going to the wrong clubs if you're spending €100

Re: Has the New Cocaine Arrived?

#49
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

every recreational drug is addictive in the same way as weed or sex or anything else that feels good. thats nothing to be concerned about. the problem is when something gives you physical dependence like heroin or heavy drinking where you cant just decide to quit because your body adapts to the drug and you will get sick without it, and i dont know if thats the case with 3-MMC.

Agreed, but even some physical dependency seems to be acceptable, though surely only because they're grandfathered in. For example caffeine

I’ve always been skeptical about caffeine’s alleged physical dependence. I’m a two or three cups a day consumer, but I’ve quit many times and never felt any different. This has been entirely by accident, like forgetting to pack coffee on a 2 week back packing trip, or purchasing decaf coffee by mistake, and didn’t even realize I wasn’t drinking for several days

Re: Has the New Cocaine Arrived?

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post #26

I was amused by the compulsively positive way this article is written. I don't think I've had read about "falling in love" with a designer drug or about "chemsex enthusiasts" before. All good, let people do what they want to do, but no downsides at all, even for the other drugs mentioned? Cocaine's problem is "the irritation", Ecstasy has too much of a "hard comedown"? And all of them are addictive, but that's just a…

For every addict, there are many responsible adults that can set healthy boundaries and have a positive relationship with recreational drugs. This article is for them.

Awful take on the matter.

They’re all responsible adults until something goes wrong and they do something horrible.

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