Forever preserving the content of a rare book by consuming one (1) copy is the kind of thing we should always be doing more of. Roughly nobody would have had access to that copy. Roughly everyone can now benefit from its content.
The Vanishing Page: AI Firms Scan Then Destroy Rare Book Editions
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Re: The Vanishing Page: AI Firms Scan Then Destroy Rare Book Editions
#12Forever preserving the content of a rare book by consuming one (1) copy is the kind of thing we should always be doing more of. Roughly nobody would have had access to that copy. Roughly everyone can now benefit from its content.
You mean, roughly everyone who uses that particular model provider’s products. For truly rare books, this has an anticompetitive flavor, since it ensures others can’t train models from the same knowledge.
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#13Yes, since we complained about them violating copyright so much, it does not violate copyright if they destroy the original, so they are now destroying the original. We got our demands met.
That's not how copyright works, at all.
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Re: The Vanishing Page: AI Firms Scan Then Destroy Rare Book Editions
#14Forever preserving the content of a rare book by consuming one (1) copy is the kind of thing we should always be doing more of. Roughly nobody would have had access to that copy. Roughly everyone can now benefit from its content.
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#15Yes, since we complained about them violating copyright so much, it does not violate copyright if they destroy the original, so they are now destroying the original. We got our demands met.
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#16Nowhere are the supposed rare books listed. Confuses "(not all that) old books" with "rare books". Ragebait, nothing more.
Re: The Vanishing Page: AI Firms Scan Then Destroy Rare Book Editions
#17More troubling to me is the focus on pre-2022 data. This indicates that the companies are seriously worried about model collapse, where the future models become worse becuase they are being fed by generated data instead of real human data.
This is actually my worse case scenario for AI: the models become good enough to disrupt entire industries in the next 10 years, but then stay frozen at that level. Model drift then kicks in because the world will keep changing but the models do not, and in a few decades we actually regress instead of progress becuase they won't be enough skilled humans to drive advances.
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#19Forever preserving the content of a rare book by consuming one (1) copy is the kind of thing we should always be doing more of. Roughly nobody would have had access to that copy. Roughly everyone can now benefit from its content.
Re: The Vanishing Page: AI Firms Scan Then Destroy Rare Book Editions
#20Yay capitalism! Imagine how much value is being created for shareholders by this destruction! Another example of "great work" being done! Jokes aside, I don't know what I would do in this situation either. Maybe find a way to mark "rare" or "out of print" books and sell/auction the "pages"? Or make the scanned book available via some mechanism?