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Re: Seedance 2.5

#151

Fyi based on what people are saying on twitter, seedance 2.5 is ~2x as expensive. For a 30 second generation at dreamina it costs 1440 credits or around $15

Which is next to nothing compared to the cost of a movie, animated TV show, or quality YouTube video.

It is not a movie though. It's a take.

Re: Seedance 2.5

#153
post #46

There is a woman on twitter who makes seedance videos of her and Dario from anthropic, they're kinda weird but generally pretty high quality: https://x.com/CuiMao/status/2058458683781365873 (full collection: https://x.com/CuiMao/status/2082740754380984373 ) - seeing them was the first time I'd been impressed with AI video gen.

Not a fan of this AI slop. We should boycott it

That battle is already lost

Re: Seedance 2.5

#155

Yes, it is awesome. Funny we got this level of capability now and we all take it in our stride. Growing up in the 80's I loved futuristic scifi, feels like I am in it now. And even I am 'just' taking it in my stride.

Speaking of the eighties, special effects were still done without CGI and typically on the cheap. That didn't make the movies and television series any less fun to watch. In the end it's about what people do with the tools, not the quality of the tools. People commenting on how these generated videos are not perfect or are getting some details wrong, look at some blockbuster movies from last century. It's very easy to spot the special effects. And it did not matter.

But yes 80s science fiction is now science fact. Talking cars like in night rider are now definitely a thing. Some can even drive themselves. The robots in Buck Rogers, Star Wars, etc. look clumsy and fake compared to the real humanoid bots we are now starting to see. More close to I Robot, which when it came out 22 years ago was pure science fiction.

Re: Seedance 2.5

#156

Fyi based on what people are saying on twitter, seedance 2.5 is ~2x as expensive. For a 30 second generation at dreamina it costs 1440 credits or around $15

Which might mean a lot for individual but is peanuts for a business

Re: Seedance 2.5

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear this a lot, but I observed this is no longer that simple. Like Green Book (2018) made over US$70.7 million in China. And one of the most popular films in 2021 was Hi, Mom (2021), made over US$785 million. Obsession (2026) is another one that is doing amazing in China, absolutely beating high action films like Supergirl ($12 million and going vs less than $1 million)

Supergirl is basically a lazy slob who is born with godlike powers, I can see why that doesn't play well in a culture that prioritises hard work and self-discipline.

Not doing terribly well anywhere as far as I've heard. That one is probably not cultural

Re: Seedance 2.5

#158
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now they cause harm because there's people that may believe a fake video is real. But people is developing skepticism about what they see in videos and learning to think that they may be generated, before taking them as true. What kind of harms do you have in mind?

No longer being able to tell whether any image or video is real due to the extreme ease of creating realistic fakes, is itself a harm.

It will be solved. Walleted, vertically integrated Apple can do a digital authenticity signature and guarantee that the video you see was at least shot on iPhone, and I won’t be surprised if it will happen soon. This + some lidar info will be enabled and everybody except minority will say that this is a great thing to have.

Re: Seedance 2.5

#159
post #24

I don't think audio, image or video generation should exist. I haven't seen enough positive applications to justify the amount of harm these tools are being used to cause.

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The long tail dream didn’t really happen in any single market which was democratized the same way in the past. Why do you expect something else now, especially on an already oversaturated market?
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