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Apart from iTunes, as the article said.
It has been 20+ years I do hope someone on HN can now spills the beans as to why.
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What? Not at all. RSS is a product category. Many RSS feeds are, if you look into them, Atom. Your RSS reader just doesn't bother to tell you, because why would you care? Try putting a Betamax tape into a VHS VCR and see if you can watch it.
Atom is a response to not wanting to support backwards compatibility like RSS does in order to improve things. https://web.archive.org/web/20080216234454/http://www.sixapa... It's explicitly a different thing. This is like pointing at the monitor of a desktop computer and saying, "that's the computer". It is effective to communicate with people who aren't interested in computers, but it's also not true and the distin…
That may have been true 20 years ago, but now that pretty much no-one uses either of them , I'd be surprised if RSS was still meaningfully more widespread than Atom. (Except everything is being called RSS).
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49141336 is the only valid response to your VHS/Betamax comparison, really.
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Atom is a response to not wanting to support backwards compatibility like RSS does in order to improve things. https://web.archive.org/web/20080216234454/http://www.sixapa... It's explicitly a different thing. This is like pointing at the monitor of a desktop computer and saying, "that's the computer". It is effective to communicate with people who aren't interested in computers, but it's also not true and the distin…
> and the early popularity and widespread adoption of RSS, the better format (atom) isn't used nearly as much. That may have been true 20 years ago, but now that pretty much no-one uses either of them , I'd be surprised if RSS was still meaningfully more widespread than Atom. (Except everything is being called RSS). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49141336 is the only valid response to your VHS/Betamax compariso…
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> and the early popularity and widespread adoption of RSS, the better format (atom) isn't used nearly as much. That may have been true 20 years ago, but now that pretty much no-one uses either of them , I'd be surprised if RSS was still meaningfully more widespread than Atom. (Except everything is being called RSS). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49141336 is the only valid response to your VHS/Betamax compariso…
I use RSS multiple times daily.
Do you use “RSS” as a protol specifically, or do you use “RSS” as in “any feed no matter the protocol”?
I remember ( I may be very wrong ) eventually RSS and Atom became one and the same thing for consumer and that all RSS reader would parse Atom feed, RSS became the logo and the name people know, atom was used behind the scene. Apart from iTunes, as the article said. It has been 20+ years I do hope someone on HN can now spills the beans as to why.
I liked thought the article as I never deep dived in the differences
Didn't we get enough of this fight 20 years ago? Let's not piss off Dave Winer again. Reminder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worse_is_better
Most of the online content I consume comes to me either via RSS or Atom (I don't have numbers on the split). Not once have I thought - "Gosh darn it, this blog uses RSS instead of Atom, even though Atom is so obviously the better choice. Now I don't even want to add this blog to my feed." ...
Though you might be upset about RSS being used when your reader screws up with it, because some things are difficult to interpret. Of course, you won't know why it screws up, and you'll probably blame the person who wrote the feed, not the format itself.
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> and the early popularity and widespread adoption of RSS, the better format (atom) isn't used nearly as much. That may have been true 20 years ago, but now that pretty much no-one uses either of them , I'd be surprised if RSS was still meaningfully more widespread than Atom. (Except everything is being called RSS). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49141336 is the only valid response to your VHS/Betamax compariso…
I use RSS multiple times daily.
Atom is better than RSS in the way Betamax was better than VHS. With the same outcome and consequences for practical use.