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Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Post by fragmede »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #16
nwah1 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, Chromebooks.

I don't think I've ever seen a single chromebook in the wild being used by a real person for real. I am sure they exist of course. I must have even seen one and forgotten it. But in all the years since they have existed, and all the varied people I've come in contact with in all those years, if I can't think of any, then the percentage is low. I think a relative's kid had one issued in high school a few years ago. Th…

The problem is, we have no way of knowing if our personal experiences are actually representative of everyone else's experience. I have 2 Chromebooks but I'm a computer nerd so I know I'm not your average user, but going off 2025 shipment data, it's something like 223 million Windows laptops to 25 million Mac's and 22 million Chromebooks.

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Post by fragmede »

Caligatio wrote: post #15
wmf wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last release of OS X was 11 years ago but this site shows it having over twice as many users as macOS. It's totally implausible.

I haven't done any investigation but some scraper and/or bot configuration uses OS X as its user agent. I run an unpublished service used by 1s of people and was hit by an influx of supposed OS X user agents that didn't correspond to my actual user base.

Did you run any advanced TCP fingerprinting techniques to dig a bit deeper?

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Post by IshKebab »

benjaminl wrote: post #4
IAmGraydon wrote: post #2

Unfortunately, Cloudflare does not agree if you filter for "likely human", which results in 6%. If you include bots, it hits 9.3%. https://radar.cloudflare.com/explorer?dataSet=http&groupBy=o...

It’s still really strange that Linux is several times larger than ChromeOS. I would not have guessed this. And I daily drove Linux for years.

If you increase the date range to 12 months you can see that ChromeOS is several times larger than Linux but recently there must have been an update so ChromeOS is now incorrectly detected as Linux.

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Post by fragmede »

andsoitis wrote: post #35
kibwen wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's obvious that Microsoft doesn't even want to be in the consumer desktop OS market anymore, they'd rather pivot to being pure B2B like IBM did. Likewise, it's obvious that the future of MacOS is continued iOS-ification and infantilization of their OS until it will eventually be useless for anything except developing iOS apps. So neither major player will bother spending a marketing budget to reverse this trend; th…

> it's obvious that the future of MacOS is continued iOS-ification What’s an example of a specific iOS-indication in macOS that makes the OS worse?

Launchpad. It sucks on macOS. You can just not use it but it's there.

Fullscreen apps and Spaces. My Mac isn't an iPad, but their window manager wants me to use it like one.

Hidden scrollbars.

App sandboxing.

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Post by alpaca9 »

eru wrote: post #18
Brian_K_White wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I've ever seen a single chromebook in the wild being used by a real person for real. I am sure they exist of course. I must have even seen one and forgotten it. But in all the years since they have existed, and all the varied people I've come in contact with in all those years, if I can't think of any, then the percentage is low. I think a relative's kid had one issued in high school a few years ago. Th…

I used one in the wild, but I was working for Google at the time.

It would be hell being forced to use these things for your job. What departments were? Because I can't imagine a software developer using one.

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Post by sgt101 »

bawolff wrote: post #3

I imagine a big part of the puzzle is that many people do not even use laptops/desktops regularly anymore, just phones and tablets

I guess almost all laptops/desktops are corporate, student, gaming or own business use.

I have never, ever, seen a corporate linux desktop outside of devs.

I have never, ever, seen a student using a linux desktop apart from CS students and a few physics/maths.

Linux is not for gaming.

See above answers for Linux in own business.

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Post by esseph »

alpaca9 wrote: post #55
eru wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used one in the wild, but I was working for Google at the time.

It would be hell being forced to use these things for your job. What departments were? Because I can't imagine a software developer using one.

Vscode can run in a browser, your code is often in git, and it normally is going through CI/CD (being compiled/packaged/deployed elsewhere).

All you need for that is a dumb terminal.

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Post by relyks »

raincole wrote: post #25

OS X: 21.14% macOS: 8.6% Yeah, if you believe this kind of stats it's on yourself. Also why are you posting a random reddit link? It doesn't even match up the latest stats provided on the official source: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide...

We should really be able to downvote submissions... This analysis is clearly factually inaccurate. I am curious to know why OS X and macOS are showing up separately though
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