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#31
> According to GOST technical standards, Russian language uses the semicolon to denote time:

Is it correct that Russian officially uses a semicolon (;) to separate time elements, or is this just a translation error?

> : (semicolon) for separating the elements of the time of the day (‘day’, ‘minute’, ‘minute and second’);

The example right below it seems to make clear that it's just an error, but then I wondered if the use of a regular colon (:) there was somehow the error instead.

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post #20

Somehow it is always Russian technologists and designers who sweat this type of stuff the most and want to talk about it. When I moved from Russia to a western country in my teenage years, as a fledging web developer and previously an avid Kovodstvo [1] reader, I remember feeling upset, surprised, and deeply disappointed by the state of the real-world English language - particularly when it came to punctuation. It sh…

That's pretty funny, I had in some sense the opposite experience. Learning Russian, at the point where I got beyond the beginner stage, I was really put off by the intense prescriptivism. As you learn languages you also learn that they all have their own pet-peeves (usually functioning like class markers). But in Russian it's taken to a point where linguistic diversity is looked down (perhaps apart from specialized s…

Same for French, and this is due to the centralized state that enforced uniformity.

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post #22

Linux: Compose key, period, period = ellipsis … Compose key, period, equals = bullet • Compose key, period, minus = interpunct · Compose key, !, ? = interrobang ‽

Windows needs to just adopt this rather than punish users with the alt codes. Compose key is so much better than dicking around with an IME or dead keys.

But then there would be no space for the extremely useful Copilot key!

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#34
post #22

Linux: Compose key, period, period = ellipsis … Compose key, period, equals = bullet • Compose key, period, minus = interpunct · Compose key, !, ? = interrobang ‽

Windows needs to just adopt this rather than punish users with the alt codes. Compose key is so much better than dicking around with an IME or dead keys.

I actually find dead keys quite practical. MacOS uses those, and it allows me to easily type French on a US keyboard. This also allows you to easily type other symbols, like •, º, etc. Maybe not everything, but it's fine for my needs.

I've spent quite some time to figure how to make Linux do the same. Turns out it's rather easy: just set the layout to macintosh, and remap some key to "level 3 shift".

I've actually went all in on the mac layout, so I've remapped the win (left) and menu (right) keys to this, so it's in the same spot as on the mac, which helps with muscle memory. Since caps is useless anyway, I've moved super there.

Now this is a bit more involved on Windows, but it's doable. There is a "macintosh" layout available on github, and it's possible to remap the keys using the registry as on Linux.

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#37
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ll own up to being someone who does this when I’m on a Mac. The reason is simple: they don’t give you a way to type a “real” check. And though Emoji contain suitable ones, those aren’t always appropriate (or allowed, such as here). On a Mac, the facility you’re given to pick emoji (which is also the same palette you’d need to pick a fancy checkmark Unicode) is horrifyingly bad - it’s slow and hard to use, and has b…

> On a Mac, the facility you’re given to pick emoji (which is also the same palette you’d need to pick a fancy checkmark Unicode) is horrifyingly bad - it’s slow and hard to use, and has been getting worse. Ugh, I hate this too. - Slow animation to open -- search field is not focused until the animation finishes. - Keyboard navigation is horrible. I never know if it can be trusted, because sometimes it can't? I'll pr…

Thank you for better articulating what's wrong with it way better than I could. Sometimes the text field doesn't even focus for me.

I do use LaunchBar's emoji search, which basically works exactly like it should, instantly searching the emoji names, and Enter to insert it, but I have to remember to configure it on every Mac and then have to remember what shortcut I assigned it.

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#38

> The period is used as a decimal symbol in English language — as well as in the language of former British colonies, in China, Japan, and some other countries. This one, as a native french speaker, is the bane of my existence since I started using computers 42 years ago. To me having the period/dot as the decimal symbol simply makes sense and I see both the period/dot and the comma as valid decimal symbols. And I re…

Agreed. I've started to use space now as the decimal separator and trying to spread the gospel.
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