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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not a typographic nut (though I care about it more than the average American), but one of the worst trends I’ve seen is to use the square root character (√) as a checkmark (). I’ve even seen Apple do it. It doesn’t help that the checkmark glyph is generally terrible, and at least on a Mac, the shortcut (⌥+V) exists for square root, and happens to be something a Windows user might accidentally find when transition…

I’ll own up to being someone who does this when I’m on a Mac. The reason is simple: they don’t give you a way to type a “real” check. And though Emoji contain suitable ones, those aren’t always appropriate (or allowed, such as here). On a Mac, the facility you’re given to pick emoji (which is also the same palette you’d need to pick a fancy checkmark Unicode) is horrifyingly bad - it’s slow and hard to use, and has b…

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Re: Manual: •.,:;…!?·

#25
> The period is used as a decimal symbol in English language — as well as in the language of former British colonies, in China, Japan, and some other countries.

This one, as a native french speaker, is the bane of my existence since I started using computers 42 years ago.

To me having the period/dot as the decimal symbol simply makes sense and I see both the period/dot and the comma as valid decimal symbols. And I really wish I could say: "either period/dot or comma as the decimal symbol, and NEVER EVER any separator for thousands/millions, etc.".

Because both:

    12.48
and

    12,48
do make sense.

While either:

   1,000,000.77
or:

   1.000.000,77
are DUMBFUCKTARDED notations.

And I'm not alone in thinking that:

"The 22nd General Conference on Weights and Measures[27] declared in 2003, "The symbol for the decimal marker shall be either the point on the line or the comma on the line." It further reaffirmed,[27]

Numbers may be divided in groups of three in order to facilitate reading; neither dots nor commas are ever inserted in the spaces between groups

That is, "1 000 000 000" is preferred over "1,000,000,000" or "1.000.000.000". This use has therefore been recommended by technical organizations, such as the United States's National Institute of Standards and Technology."

But because sooooo many software still use those dumbfucktarded notations where pointless separators are used to needlessly separate groups, it's not possible to say:

"either dot/period/comma is the decimal separator"

Wanna talk about co-workers having different locales and online spreadsheet with numbers looking different? What about a spreadsheet where on one computer a formula begins with:

    =SUM(...
while on another computer, on the same desk, that freaking same formula is:

    =SOMME(...
This is facepalming retardation on a level of fucktardedness that cannot be understated.

Re: Manual: •.,:;…!?·

#26
post #5

There’s a quick note about the interrobang (‽) at the end. I’ve long had it in my macOS/iOS text replacement config, but nearly every font renders it so poorly that I usually manually retype the characters. It looks like a typographical mistake more often than communicating the questioned surprise that’s intended. There was a push a few years ago by some modern fonts (as illustrated in the article) to place the overl…

This article was the first time I saw that variation of the interrobang with the ! and ? angled and sharing the dot, but… man… I think I am in love‽

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Linux: Compose key, period, period = ellipsis … Compose key, period, equals = bullet • Compose key, period, minus = interpunct · Compose key, !, ? = interrobang ‽

Windows needs to just adopt this rather than punish users with the alt codes. Compose key is so much better than dicking around with an IME or dead keys.

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#29
post #22

Linux: Compose key, period, period = ellipsis … Compose key, period, equals = bullet • Compose key, period, minus = interpunct · Compose key, !, ? = interrobang ‽

Windows needs to just adopt this rather than punish users with the alt codes. Compose key is so much better than dicking around with an IME or dead keys.

Russians solved this almost 20 years ago with two (one for Russian and one for English) custom layouts where right alt is used a separate typography layer.

For example rightAlt + c will give you ©, rightAlt+- will give you em-dash —

Both for mac and windows:

https://ilyabirman.ru/typography-layout/

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#30
post #22

Linux: Compose key, period, period = ellipsis … Compose key, period, equals = bullet • Compose key, period, minus = interpunct · Compose key, !, ? = interrobang ‽

Windows needs to just adopt this rather than punish users with the alt codes. Compose key is so much better than dicking around with an IME or dead keys.

I have made a keyboard layout for Windows that abuses dead keys and AltGr as a substitute for compose key, the difference being that such compose key needs to be held while typing the first character:

https://github.com/grompe/kbdasm (kbdusru_undead.asm)

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