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Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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HN was no better. It sticks in my memory because how shocked and saddened I was at the suppression here too. You can back through old threads during the pandemic and see for yourself. A good search would just be “Sweden” because sweden’s reasoning on lockdowns was especially triggering to HN for some reason.

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Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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have you seen Masayoshi Son goose presentation? https://group.softbank/media/Project/sbg/sbg/pdf/ir/investor... page 44 I think you're onto something edit: replaced the link to point to the actual slides, it's worth checking the actual source, there is some hilarious details there! (spoiler: "The true source of value. Golden egg factory inside the goose")

Unfortunately, today's MBAs can barely see beyond the current quarter. Everything is a P&L to them, everything is a cell in a spreadsheet. This MBA culture is slowly strangling American companies and squeezing the life out of them.

Has strangled. Has squeezed. It's time to start talking about this stuff in past tense. And it's not today's MBAs. It's all MBAs.

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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imo, Google is just slowing dying. Each tools they made slowly lost trust until there is no way to believe it again. Idk if it is just the current propaganda, but they just told us we can't even trust google sat images. So now we can't even trust google maps to drive.

"Slowly dying" implies it's some sort of a natural process they have no control over, that's not what's happening. It's committing suicide, on purpose. It's a modern-day burning of the Library of Alexandria in favour of a shitty replacement. It's what we get for offloading such a basic web function in the hands of a private company that's just no longer interested in serving that basic function.

It may be natural. How long has any large corporation managed to hold things together?

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imo, Google is just slowing dying. Each tools they made slowly lost trust until there is no way to believe it again. Idk if it is just the current propaganda, but they just told us we can't even trust google sat images. So now we can't even trust google maps to drive.

I think trust in general has eroded. Rampant _overt_ corruption at the highest levels of western governments, wars, enshittification[0], decay[1], crumbling infrastructure, constant political gridlock.. It seems like it is everywhere, and people are exhausted. [0]: https://www.worseonpurpose.com [1]: https://decayindex.com

My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, my son drives a Land Rover, his son will drive a Land Rover, but his son will ride a camel.

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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I suggest replacing google's News tab with Magic! because it's so heavily messed with you cannot make sense of the ranking. For some queries on ongoing events I've seen headlines come up from the last month or older as the first result. How hard you mofos want to suppress information?

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Occam's razor: maybe there isn't a conspiracy to suppress true information, but rather, maybe that information is just wrong and stupid.

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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Google abandons a piece of software into decaying crap but their scale and 'free'-ness is so large that we don't get a good replacement for years and years... On a sidenote, is there anything good to replace google news? Similar thoughts with hackernews...

Marginalia?

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Occam's razor: maybe there isn't a conspiracy to suppress true information, but rather, maybe that information is just wrong and stupid.

Not really. The scientific consensus is that the mainstream view of covid was dead wrong

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It feels like that should be a golden opportunity for competitors, but every time a competitor makes a decent replacement, the big tech company either buys it or briefly invests in their product again to make it good enough and since they have a long tail of users and the network effect, they win by default while still keeping their product mediocre

The joys of monopolies, I guess. I think that the only solution is to break them, and that goes through regulations.

And laws. The US Congress could pass updates to the Sherman or Clayton acts any time they want to.

As soon as "selling the company to big tech" became more financially attractive than growing a competitor, we should have been looking at re-enabling a competitive marketplace.

It's not rocket science either: simply imposing regulation-mandated data takeout / interoperability + sharpening acquisition competition tests + preventing anticompetitive tying. With requirements that get increasing strict the larger one party is and mandatory minimum penalties that are tied to total revenue.

If we look at the world as it is and say "That's not great," then... create a different one.

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Occam's razor: maybe there isn't a conspiracy to suppress true information, but rather, maybe that information is just wrong and stupid.

Not really. The scientific consensus is that the mainstream view of covid was dead wrong

The what? How can the scientific consensus not be the mainstream view?

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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I'd suggest checking out forth.news. It's my project -- pulling in primary news sources (think pool reports, statements, alerts, press releases, etc) and mixing it with some trusted reporter info. It's all automated, which means its very fast to get breaking news out. (There is also https://pro.forth.news which is more granular, includes searchable archives, etc) If there are sources or areas we're not including that…

Sounds interesting, but 8/10 stories at the top are about local hazardous weather conditions. Maybe those could be filtered out somehow, but I feel like the default should be better...
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