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Reddit Stock Collapses 23% as AI Eats Away at User Growth

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Re: Reddit Stock Collapses 23% as AI Eats Away at User Growth

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Post by anon48293 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #19
ricardobeat wrote: post #12

They killed their own product by allowing toxic communities to flourish, the disastrous redesign, walling off their web content to push their mobile app and force signups, closing off their API, etc; and more recently allowing AI-generated content to grow unchecked.

I started/run a old and moderately popular sub (top 100 in sports) and haven’t noticed any issues that we haven’t dealt with before. We shut down during the blackout so it’s not like it’s all been easy. I got stock a couple years ago, that’s about it and I thought that was nice having been on Reddit since 2006 or whatever. That said we’re not a trash sub and take moderation extremely seriously.

I’d argue moderators taking themselves too seriously is precisely reddits problem, but okay.

Re: Reddit Stock Collapses 23% as AI Eats Away at User Growth

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Post by theyliesoeasily »

I've been using reddit heavily since the early days.

Getting hit with a login screen on old.reddit.com this week made it really easy to quit.

o7 Aaron, I wish you could have kept creating great things for us. Somehow I think that's all you wanted. Instead we got the Sam Altman timeline. Oh well, we'll keep trying.

Re: Reddit Stock Collapses 23% as AI Eats Away at User Growth

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

ccgreg wrote: post #20
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Common Crawl is heavily populated with reddit threads So a massive chunk of LLMs are Reddit data

That isn't true. You're welcome to peruse our index to prove or disprove your claim.

I appreciate the response because it made me go back and look at my sources.

What I conflated was that WebText utilizes Reddit links and data (mostly prior to 2023/4) and that I combined WebText and common crawl for the original GPT2 bootstrap into one dataset

I was incorrectly connecting Reddit-mediated WebText pipeline to Common Crawl. So thanks for the correction!

Re: Reddit Stock Collapses 23% as AI Eats Away at User Growth

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

anon48293 wrote: post #21
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started/run a old and moderately popular sub (top 100 in sports) and haven’t noticed any issues that we haven’t dealt with before. We shut down during the blackout so it’s not like it’s all been easy. I got stock a couple years ago, that’s about it and I thought that was nice having been on Reddit since 2006 or whatever. That said we’re not a trash sub and take moderation extremely seriously.

I’d argue moderators taking themselves too seriously is precisely reddits problem, but okay.

Judge for yourself but I’m extremely proud of our community

/r/ultramarathon

We have a thriving supportive community that has been a support group for 100 thousand people that run or want to learn to run ultramarathons

Re: Reddit Stock Collapses 23% as AI Eats Away at User Growth

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Post by ccgreg »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #23
ccgreg wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't true. You're welcome to peruse our index to prove or disprove your claim.

I appreciate the response because it made me go back and look at my sources. What I conflated was that WebText utilizes Reddit links and data (mostly prior to 2023/4) and that I combined WebText and common crawl for the original GPT2 bootstrap into one dataset I was incorrectly connecting Reddit-mediated WebText pipeline to Common Crawl. So thanks for the correction!

Appreciate you double-checking.

Re: Reddit Stock Collapses 23% as AI Eats Away at User Growth

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Post by LexiMax »

anon48293 wrote: post #21
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started/run a old and moderately popular sub (top 100 in sports) and haven’t noticed any issues that we haven’t dealt with before. We shut down during the blackout so it’s not like it’s all been easy. I got stock a couple years ago, that’s about it and I thought that was nice having been on Reddit since 2006 or whatever. That said we’re not a trash sub and take moderation extremely seriously.

I’d argue moderators taking themselves too seriously is precisely reddits problem, but okay.

Good online communities have active and engaged moderation.

That said, Reddit moderation seems stuck in a weird limbo where moderators have a lot of power on paper but completely ineffectual tooling to combat organized and systemic abuse.

Given those limitations I find it hard to imagine Reddit modding ending up any other way.

Re: Reddit Stock Collapses 23% as AI Eats Away at User Growth

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Post by brador »

r0fl wrote: post #15
ricardobeat wrote: post #12

They killed their own product by allowing toxic communities to flourish, the disastrous redesign, walling off their web content to push their mobile app and force signups, closing off their API, etc; and more recently allowing AI-generated content to grow unchecked.

I’m shocked Google does not delist Reddit for their shitty web experience If you are on mobile and you are not signed in you get the entire free site walled unless you sign in or go use the app Google is supposed to show the best content at the top Apart from those fake spyware pop ups I cannot think of a worse surfing experience

Google is definitely showing more linkedin and Facebook/meta/insta posts as search results.

The Reddit content Google serves is down. Around 50% less I’d say and the change started this month.

Re: Reddit Stock Collapses 23% as AI Eats Away at User Growth

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

LexiMax wrote: post #27
anon48293 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d argue moderators taking themselves too seriously is precisely reddits problem, but okay.

Good online communities have active and engaged moderation. That said, Reddit moderation seems stuck in a weird limbo where moderators have a lot of power on paper but completely ineffectual tooling to combat organized and systemic abuse. Given those limitations I find it hard to imagine Reddit modding ending up any other way.

Like most things a handful of power tripping moderators ruin the whole reputation. It is what it is.

Ultimately if you care about the community you’re supporting and put the effort in, it’s possible to do it.

If on the other hand your goal is growth at all costs then most likely it’s going to turn into a cesspool.

Notably we turn down almost weekly sponsorship proposals from real brands, like Garmin, because opening that door would ruin the whole thing.

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