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Half decade? Its been getting worse for as long as I’ve been conscious.

how old are you? smartphones are strictly better than no smartphones or no mobile phones. internet is better than no internet. etc.

YouTube is better than no YouTube. Wikipedia is better than no Wikipedia. But Google today is way worse than first decade Google.

There's curves to all these things. It just feels like we're accelerating on the downslope of a lot of them right now.

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels like that should be a golden opportunity for competitors, but every time a competitor makes a decent replacement, the big tech company either buys it or briefly invests in their product again to make it good enough and since they have a long tail of users and the network effect, they win by default while still keeping their product mediocre

The solution is non profits or open protocols. Internet Archive. Let’s Encrypt. Signal. Peertube. Jitsi. AT Proto. (not an exhaustive list) Competition is not the way out, but building public goods through corporate entity structures that are protected from the usual capitalist forms of acquisition (B Corps are not required to maximize value, non profits can be made almost impossible to acquire through incorporation…

> The solution is non profits or open protocols.

This is a decent brain storming along those lines for social media in particular, but it could also apply more broadly, like you say:

https://www.noemamag.com/the-last-days-of-social-media/

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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People don't like reading news these days. It is sad. Nevertheless Google is not supporting this product as they could.

News is really poorly written these days. I don't blame people for not wanting to slog through a poorly organized, superficial rehash of a press release for the half chance of finding some relevant information. It's not just that incentives are misaligned, it's also that they don't hire or train people to write or find details.

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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What's with big tech companies changing all searches to be fuzzy? FB Marketplace is now like this too. It's impossible to search for anything, it gives unrelated results at least half the time.

they want you to spend even more TIME on that platfrom. With some increased time, they get more revenue? and the exec./manager gets comp. and bonus for it.

Until we all quit, which we won't because, what is better than not accessing good information?

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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I really can't get over the way almost every piece of consumer technology/software has gotten worse in the last half decade. These companies are killing every goose they can get their hands on because they are so convinced there is some golden goose out there that will be worth more than all those regular geese combined.

have you seen Masayoshi Son goose presentation? https://group.softbank/media/Project/sbg/sbg/pdf/ir/investor... page 44 I think you're onto something edit: replaced the link to point to the actual slides, it's worth checking the actual source, there is some hilarious details there! (spoiler: "The true source of value. Golden egg factory inside the goose")

Unfortunately, today's MBAs can barely see beyond the current quarter. Everything is a P&L to them, everything is a cell in a spreadsheet. This MBA culture is slowly strangling American companies and squeezing the life out of them.

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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People don't like reading news these days. It is sad. Nevertheless Google is not supporting this product as they could.

I disagree. They dislike the news options they have. I’ve been dying for a decent and unbiased news aggregator. They simply do not exist presently.

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Google is killing the habit of googling or searching in their userbase, in favour of using LLMs. No surprise most of the previous era google services will be thrown out of the window in the very near future.

And even why? They are allready written, why they break now? Someone useless is clearly vibe coding them to ruin. If google cares about cost then stop changing them and just leave few custodians

> They are allready written, why they break now?

Because the economic system we've half-blindly constructed fixates on "growth" mania, and all the mania has moved elsewhere.

The company does not believe it will be as-rewarded for maintaining the product, and in turn it does not reward people who want to maintain the product.

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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imo, Google is just slowing dying. Each tools they made slowly lost trust until there is no way to believe it again. Idk if it is just the current propaganda, but they just told us we can't even trust google sat images. So now we can't even trust google maps to drive.

> imo, Google is just slowing dying.

Too big to die, IMO. They can just buy everything they want and abuse everybody.

Re: Google has abandoned Google News?

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Small clarification: the post's screenshot is of the News mode in Search, and not news.google.com. I think the latter is what people think of when they think "Google News". Whether the same problems are there as well, I don't know. I also notice in the screenshot that the query isn't visible, it's on page 4 of results, and there seems to be a banner saying that the search is expanding beyond the set filters. I agree…

I think the critique of "the search tool no longer respects your settings" is true regardless of it it notifies you of that fact. I did a random search myself and the first result outside of one week I saw was on page 17[1]. There are still lots of results within the one-week limit and that remains true for at least 10 more pages. I also do not see any banner warning me that my search has been expanded.

So while I think google news may still be generally useful, I also think the complaints in this article are accurate based on the first search I checked.

[1] (all query terms preserved as I have no notion which matter) https://www.google.com/search?q=iran+usa&sca_esv=cad7e3d7417...

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